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Old 14th August 2006, 05:27 PM   #1
bogdan_borko is offline bogdan_borko  Serbia
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Default Triode spice models for Circuit maker

Is there any triode spice models that can be used in Circuit Maker 2000?
What spice engine CM is using and what models?
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Old 14th August 2006, 05:29 PM   #2
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the spice models I need:

ECC88(6DJ8)
ECC81(12AT7)
6N3P(2C51)

I got all of these models, but I can`t use them in CM 2000.
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Old 15th August 2006, 12:23 AM   #3
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I have circuitmaker 2000, and this works for me

* 6DJ8 Spice 3F4 model
.SUBCKT X6DJ8 P G K
Bp P K I=(0.06867321543e-3)*uramp(V(P,K)*ln(1.0+(-0.03262478644)+exp((7.453794563)+(7.453794563)*((3 1.84399594)+(-13.80505589e-3)*V(G,K))*V(G,K)/V(P,K)))/(7.453794563))^(1.37713474)

C1 G K 3.1E-12
C2 G P 1.4E-12
C3 P K 0.18E-12

.ends X6DJ8

another version

*Vacuum Tube Triode (Audio freq.) pkg:VT-9 (A:1,2,3)(B:6,7,8)
.SUBCKT X6DJ8a 1 3 4
B1 2 4 I=((URAMP((V(2,4)/31)+V(3,4)))^1.5)/120
C1 3 4 3.1E-12
C2 3 1 1.4E-12
C3 1 4 0.18E-12
R1 3 5 10E+3
D1 1 2 DX
D2 4 2 DX2
D3 5 4 DX
.MODEL DX D(IS=1.0E-12 RS=1.0)
.MODEL DX2 D(IS=1.0E-9 RS=1.0)
.ENDS X6DJ8a


12AT7:

*Vacuum Tube Triode (Audio freq.) pkg:VT-9 (A:1,2,3)(B:6,7,8)
.SUBCKT X12AT7A A G K

* ANODE MODEL

BLIM LI 0 V=(URAMP(V(A)-V(K))^ 1 )* 0.0037

BGG GG 0 V=V(G)-V(K)--0.5

BRP1 RP1 0 V=URAMP(-V(GG)* 0.09869 )

BRP2 RP2 0 V=V(RP1)-URAMP(V(RP1)-0.999)

BRPF RP 0 V=(1-V(RP2)^ 1 )+URAMP(V(GG))* 0.1

BGR GR 0 V=URAMP(V(GG))-URAMP(-(V(GG)*(1+V(GG)* 0.012937 )))

BEM EM 0 V=URAMP(V(A)-V(K)+V(GR)* 45.093 )

BEP EP 0 V=(V(EM)^ 1.4 )*V(RP)* 0.00000863

BEL1 EL1 0 V=URAMP(V(EP))

BEL EL 0 V=V(EL1)-URAMP(V(EL1)-V(LI))

BLD LD 0 V=URAMP(V(EP)-V(LI))

BAK A K I=V(EL)

* GRID MODEL

BGF GF 0 V=(URAMP(V(G)-V(K)--0.5 )^1.5)* 0.00012

BG G K I=V(GF)+V(LD)

* CAPS

CAK A K 0.0000000000004

CGK G K 0.0000000000023

CGA G A 0.0000000000016

.ENDS X12AT7A


don't have anything for the 6N3P

Other models I do have are at:
http://home.netcom.com/~wb2jia/tubes/spice.txt
http://home.netcom.com/~wb2jia/tubes/spice2.txt
http://home.netcom.com/~wb2jia/tubes/spice3.txt
http://home.netcom.com/~wb2jia/tubes/spice4.txt
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Old 15th August 2006, 12:38 AM   #4
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Triode spice models for Circuit maker
in any of these programs you should take the Model and back into the curves in the RCA tube handbook (or other). The Koren models work well but they are in need of adjustment of some of the variables to acurately portray what's cookin down there in ECC83 land.
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Old 15th December 2016, 08:42 AM   #5
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I think wa2ise is my saver. I use circuit maker and I do not understand an indication in the spice data, so I can not create a new model of valve.
If I take your:
*Vacuum Tube Triode (Audio freq.) pkg:VT-9 (A:1,2,3)(B:6,7,8)
.SUBCKT X6DJ8a 1 3 4
B1 2 4 I=((URAMP((V(2,4)/31)+V(3,4)))^1.5)/120
C1 3 4 3.1E-12
C2 3 1 1.4E-12
C3 1 4 0.18E-12
R1 3 5 10E+3
D1 1 2 DX
D2 4 2 DX2
D3 5 4 DX
.MODEL DX D(IS=1.0E-12 RS=1.0)
.MODEL DX2 D(IS=1.0E-9 RS=1.0)
.ENDS X6DJ8a

first line: 31 is the ampli factor : ok?
but what is 120?
c1/2/3: the capacitors
R: the ri of the valve
thanks for your help
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Old 21st December 2016, 02:27 PM   #6
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Hi,

I found some models I needed and also found the explanations I was looking for. So I can save them in my circuit maker.
But: edit macro; Save macro, expand macro, and macro lock do not work. These positions remain grayed out.
Only new macro; Macro utilities etc work.
What can I do ?
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Old 21st December 2016, 04:28 PM   #7
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Hi,

I found some models I needed and also found the explanations I was looking for. So I can save them in my circuit maker.
But: edit macro; Save macro, expand macro, and macro lock do not work. These positions remain grayed out.
Only new macro; Macro utilities etc work.
What can I do ?
I simply open "triode.sub" with a text editor and add a model. Attached is my file with much more accurate models than the one above. Feel free to grab the ones you need.
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File Type: zip TRIODE.zip (2.7 KB, 30 views)
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Old 21st December 2016, 05:49 PM   #8
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Many thanks
I have extract the zip but I cannot read it.
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Old 21st December 2016, 07:36 PM   #9
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Many thanks
I have extract the zip but I cannot read it.
What do you mean by "cannot read it"? You can't open it in a text editor like Notepad?
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Old 22nd December 2016, 07:53 AM   #10
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ok groucho, I don't why I do not know why it did not work????
now what is the procedure for introduce the datas in circuit maker?
the informations in the tutorial circuit maker are grey and when I try to modify the existing datas, a window open with '' only to read ''
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