PL36 PP Amplifier 22W Full construction details

[mario2005]

Hi,
So, today I desing and built :

PL36 PP Amplifier 22W class A , with 6N7 and ECC82

The PL36 pentode was originally intended for use as a line output, (or horizontal deflection) valve in television receivers.

Full construction details and my experience with PL36 PP Amplifier can be posted here, or sent to email if you need that.






Best regards
Mario2005

 

[Giaime]

Post here Mario, please,

I'm also working on a EL36PP, but in triode mode, should give 10W in class A.

Tell us more about your design!

 

[mario2005]

Schematic

Hi,
Schematic

Regards
mario2005

 

[SY]

The anode and screen voltages appear to be 100V over the maximum ratings (250V). Caution!

 

[mario2005]

I start with 450V and all work perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now 400V.

I have 3 diferent Philips Tungsram and Telam Four matched tubes.

Tungsram is the best.


PL36 is beter then 6L6 and similar with EL34 !!!!!!!


this is maximum from PL36 .

The prototype amplifier has been running almost non stop since It was built. more then 10 hours .

regards
mario2005

 

[Tubes4e4]

Hi Mario2005,

neat design, but what is the objective of PL36 in (horribly non-linear) pentode mode, when you can get the same power from extremely linear triode strapped PL36 PP?

See this link.

SY: Yes, PL36 is used even more grossly over specs in this design. But they will stand it. I suspect spec sheet design center ratings were really given with TV deflection duty in mind.

Tom

 

[Geek]

SY: Yes, PL36 is used even more grossly over specs in this design. But they will stand it.

You beat me to it.

The E/PL36 is an extremely tough tube. It'll take 22W before plate glow

I have no idea why it wan't used in RF service

 

[mario2005]

triode mode PL36 PP and 380V

 

[Giaime]

My take... of course not exceeding EL36 maximum values

10W in class A, DF = 10 with the OPT that I'm waiting

No need for feedback to tame errors: since there aren't any.

 

[Tubes4e4]

triode mode PL36 PP and 380V

If the driver/splitter will work as required (I didn´t check this), you will get about 20W Po in class AB1 using this output stage setup, delivering about 8W in pure class A which should be more than enough for sweet listening.

Damping factor will be about 3,5 w/o any gNFB applied, which is decent already. Nevertheless I would suggest to use about 6dB of gNFB, but nothing more than that is needed. Certainly not the 20dB you mention in the circuit diagram, which probably is just a left-over from the previous plain pentode (errr ... beam power) version.

For EL36/PL36 triode strapped plate curves have a look here, although this plot will not cover the actual Pd you are running your PL36s at. But you can easily prolong the curves

Tom

 

[Hojvaelde]

Hello mario2005

What is the latest new about your PL36PP amplifier?

I had intended to make a copy. I have some PL36 on stock.

Audio quality, etc.?

Benny

 

[Yvesm]

Hey, look at my new toy

Trioded EL36 AB1 PP simulated with 300V into a 4K4 Zaa, and "cold" biased at 33mA, that is 10W at idle.
Well, I go a bit over the 15W line ... but no more than half the time.
Should deliver roughly 25W, but needs a lot of drive

Yves.

 

[Geek]

Yves makes nice curves with his toy

Drive? Bah, easy - LTP

Cheers!

 

[Hojvaelde]

Hey Mario2005 + others

I sit here with some PL36 tubes. I need a 30 to 35 watt amplifier, and has thought of developing a PPP version.
6N7 should be able to run a parallel set.

I will also change the bias type.

Are there some who have some ideas / suggestions.

Regards

Benny

 

[winij]

sogood pl36 pp

 

[multi]

EL36 Triode connected

A triode connected EL36 by Patrick Turner.


2323-triode-integrated-6cm5