Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Tubes / Valves
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Tubes / Valves All about our sweet vacuum tubes :) Threads about Musical Instrument Amps of all kinds should be in the Instruments & Amps forum

diyAudio Sponsor

Search for a tube at thetubestore.com                            Product reviews and more

Audio tubes for any amplifier: from high end home audio to classic guitar amps.

Quick links by tube type: 12AX7, EL34, 6L6, KT66, 6550, KT88, EL84, 12AU7, 12AT7, 6922, 6H30, 300B, 6V6, 6SN7 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 8th July 2006, 03:52 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: sdf
Default which tube using NonDirect heat with best-class sound ?

I wonder which tube is using non direct heat but in the top level of the class ?

anyone can type the list ? I know it's hard to tell but I have no Idea at all.

cal
__________________
be tube
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th July 2006, 04:13 PM   #2
Giaime is offline Giaime  Italy
diyAudio Member
 
Giaime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Send a message via MSN to Giaime
Best tube... for what?

There isn't "the best tube", nor exists a list of the "best ones".

For example a 300B may be great for single ended output stage with output transformer, but it can be very poor in phono preamps.
  Reply With Quote
Old 8th July 2006, 11:48 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: sdf
names one for Amp SE ?
__________________
be tube
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 12:18 AM   #4
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Plainsboro, NJ
There are so many variables. Triode, pentode, small signal, and power O/P.

You say you want to build a SE amp with IDH tubes. The electrical behavior of a triode strapped 6AV5 is quite close to that of the much loved 2A3 DHT. The 5965 is a very linear twin triode. A 5965 section driving a triode strapped 6AV5 will get you going nicely. Select a decent O/P trafo suitable for use with 2A3s.
__________________
Eli D.
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 02:10 AM   #5
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: sdf
well, I don;t think I can design that. with my limited knowledge.

are you saying 2A3 can be design to NDH ?
if I got it wrong, then which DNDH triode tube is good or best or commond for SE Amp ?
I know 300B or 2A3 is good fro me, but it's DH.

cal.
__________________
be tube
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 03:00 AM   #6
lndm is offline lndm  Australia
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: nsw
What about KT66, or 6V6GT.

If you want higher power, try 6550, KT88.
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 03:40 AM   #7
hacknet is offline hacknet  Singapore
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: sg
apparently low voltage high current kt88s work like magic.
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 03:51 AM   #8
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: sdf
any schematic using 6550 KT88 ? how much power ? B+ ?

cal
__________________
be tube
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 03:54 AM   #9
lndm is offline lndm  Australia
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: nsw
Between 20 and 100W. Depends on how you use them. What sort of amp do you want? Maybe you could Google for the Williamson amp.
  Reply With Quote
Old 9th July 2006, 04:16 AM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Plainsboro, NJ
Quote:
are you saying 2A3 can be design to NDH ?
Precisely. A triode strapped 6AV5 will substitute cleanly for a 2A3. Find a 2A3 circuit you like and use it. Obviously a hum balance pot. is not needed and you put 6.3 VAC on the 6AV5's heater.

Here is the schematic for the Morrison Micro, a Loftin-White style amp. Scrap the 2.5 VAC filament trafo and connect the 2.5 KOhm/47 muF. bias network directly to the 6AV5's cathode. Use a separate floating 6.3 VAC filament trafo for the 6AV5 heaters to avoid exceeding the heater to cathode potential limit. The Noval 5751 and the Locktal 7F7 are suitable substitutes for 6SL7s.

6AV5 data sheet here.


Edit: fixed typo
__________________
Eli D.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SE Class A 200W PURE Heat lineup Solid State 28 25th November 2008 07:08 PM
controlling heat in tube amps. navin Tubes / Valves 10 17th February 2004 05:53 PM
Spreading the heat in class A Steven Solid State 19 10th November 2003 06:08 PM
Class A sound/AB Heat Dissipation Samuel Jayaraj Solid State 5 23rd October 2003 12:34 PM
“Chill” out those Class A Heat woes! roddyama Everything Else 1 17th July 2003 09:04 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:07 PM.

Page generated in 0.08881 seconds (87.93% PHP - 12.07% MySQL) with 10 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio