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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: VA
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Here's list of patents disclosing various tube circuits and how to look them up.
http://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb/...num=1098657851 |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: VA
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The forum's gone. This was in the thread on the other forum.
Tubes at the USPTO You can find a lot of audio circuits including tube based circuits in the patent collection at the USPTO (and other countries). The USPTO recently threw away their entire collection of hard copies after starting to put all of the patents on computer databases which are available on the internet and can also be searched using databases like EAST and WEST at the USPTO. Besides searching by class and subclass, you can do keyword searching using a patent database, look at other patents listed as references in patents and use patent numbers of patents you found already as keywords to find newer patents that list them as references (forward search). The USPTO and Espacenet have entire collections of patents available on the interent for free. Espacenet has US and foreign patents. EAST and WEST at the USPTO have both US and some foreign patents avaialable, but I don't know if the foreign patents are available on the USPTO web site. Companies like Micropatent have collections of patents available on the internet, but usually aren't free. There's about 80+ libraries around the country (USA) from what I remember that have facilities for doing patent searching or just looking at patents (ie. on microfilm). I heard years ago that many of these libraries had the APS computer system for searching patents. They might have EAST and WEST now, but I don't know for sure. The public can use the EAST and WEST terminals for free at the USPTO (now located in old town Alexandria, Virginia) after getting a permanent or temporary pass. Patent examiners, clerks and other USPTO employees have their own EAST, WEST and other database terminals. To view patents go to http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm or http://gb.espacenet.com Both text for later patents and images for all patents are available at the USPTO web site, but you need a TIFF browser plug-in to view images from the USPTO. I use Alternatiff available from http://www.alternatiff.com . Patents at Espacenet are in pdf form and require Adobe Acrobat Reader to read them, available for free at http://www.adobe.com . Since I was interested in tubed FM stereo mpx adapters I started with this subject. Searching using the keyword "stereo" in class 329 and then looking through class 381 subclasses 4, 7, 8 and 9, I found these US patents: 3167615 two triodes with diode ring modulator 3226481 3294912 transistors, detailed, shows L+R, L-R and SCA diagram 3854098 quadraphonic demodulator for records 3617641 transistor detail in IC 20 3124653 tubes, 19kHz full wave rectifier 3175040 two ring modulators, balanced 3175041 time division switching 3287501 clipper 35, diodes 31 and 32 - full wave rectification of 19 kHz signal (see column 2 lines 49+) 3209270 strange demodulator tube 20 Here's some examples of tube amps I found in class 381 subclasses 118, 119, 122 and 123: 2815407 Hafler ultralinear 2710312 Hafler ultralinear 4066975 HiFi tube, Paoli High Fidelity Consultants 2773136 Futterman OTL 2904644 voltage regulation in HiFi tube amp w/ EL34/6CA7 Some McIntosh amps: 2477074 3573648 2860192 2654058 2646467 It might be easier for beginners to use http://gb.espacenet.com and put in the patent number preceded with "US", ie. US3167615, under "View a patent application". You need to have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to view the patents. Click the patent number on the pages that come up and eventually you will get to the pdf images. ---------------------- You can also link directly to the patent like this: http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/bn...++3167615A1+I+ ---------------------- You can look up classes and subclasses here: http://www.uspto.gov/go/classification/ class 329: http://www.uspto.gov/go/classificati...9/sched329.htm Class 381: http://www.uspto.gov/go/classificati...1/sched381.htm Class 330: http://www.uspto.gov/go/classificati...0/sched330.htm Music: http://www.uspto.gov/go/classificati...4/sched084.htm ------------------ Another thing I should say is that you have to have Javascript on to use http://gb.espacenet.com/ Just put the patent number (for example US3287501) in the second doohicky, click GO and click the patent number in the pages that come up to get to the pdf images. ------------------ One thing I forgot to mention is that patents issued more than 17 years ago are expired. They changed the law sometime in the 1990's to 20 years from the filing date for patents issued since then. All the patent numbers I posted are for patents that are expired and in the public domain. Maintenance fees have to be payed from time to time for patents that aren't expired. If the fees aren't payed then the patents become expired. There is a grace period where if the fees are payed then the patent is in force again. If the fees aren't payed within this grace period then the patent becomes expired forever unless there is an act of Congress which isn't likely. ------------------ More patents. Most are on tube audio power amplifiers. Class 330 subclass 118 3092783 OTL 3096486 push-pull parallel 3153766 diodes -> screen grid 3566236 cathodes coupled to secondary of transformer, screen grids -> triode -> cathodes & B+ 4918394 cascode input 5302912 reduced crossover distortion 5498996 plural output tubes, suppression Class 330 subclass 119 2921266 self balancing 2919411 two phase splitters, parallel output tubes, push-pull 2595444 transformer coupling to cathodes and control grids 2918630 strange driver circuit 2833871 self balancing phase inverter 2777905 low distortion 2825766 cathode coupling, McIntosh Labs Inc. Class 330 subclass 123 2772329 supersonic "bias" reduces crossover distortion 2934714 low distortion 3005162 VR tube -> screen grids 3138766 volume limiter/expander 4532476 two class simultaneously 4593251 two class simultaneously |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: VA
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Another link for patents: http://www.pat2pdf.org
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: kansas city mo, and on occasion, around the world ...
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thanks for the links.
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here again http://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: VA
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I can't find the orginal thread in that forum. Here's the Google cache version.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:...gl=us&ie=UTF-8 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: VA
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See also Google Patents
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Belgrade
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: VA
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More useful information.
Millions of hard copies of patents took up a lot of space at the USPTO. They threw them all away years ago and put them all on databases. Flickr: Crystal City, Beltsville & College Park's Photostream Sciencemadness - Multi-page TIFF files |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Alps:Tube amp designs over 150W, SMPS guru.
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Murderous trying to find on this....
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