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Old 23rd March 2006, 12:28 AM   #11
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Exactly Brian.

I usually try to respect individual hearing experiences (my Mother taught me good manners), but some are a bit thick. But I am also perturbed by tests in an article I have just reread (in a reply to another thread re 6L6s), that 6L6s tested for distortion (triode), gave figures from 0,62% to 1,18%. As a pentode the figures ran from 0,95% to 1.25%. These for different makes.

But then the writer also states that 7027s are "quite different" from 6L6GCs and need to be rebiased, etc. Well now..... (for the unintiated, they are exactly the same, except for maximum ratings). I guess back to your point then.

But I am off thread now.
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Old 16th December 2013, 11:28 AM   #12
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Yes, there atre so many points ov view to know which tube to use. As Iīd like to describe: Things like the choice of a tube or a partner has to be done by everybody him(her)self.

E182CC doesnīt sound exactly like 5687 or 6N6P oe whatever. Replacements are n o t the same.
I have heard the E182CC as an input stage at 86V and 2,4mA or a little less where it sounds great, 3D, air in sound , stage. excellent with a little lack of bass. (you can try other voltages and currents...)
If I ran it at 3,4 mA, the sound went sharp. But in all, itīs one of my favourite input tubes. In datasheet we can see, that itīs a low Z output tube , so it must be good as an output stage, right?
No wrong, the sound at 6mA was too harsh and I didnīt like the punch in bass. Not my favourite output stage at all...Well if you like that sound, itīs unique anyway, take what you like..
So, I stopped reading sounds, but test and l i s t e n to everything I can with any tube I want to know. Thatīs the long way and the only one I know to find a personal truth which is very subjective indeed.
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