I agree. I used a 1uF Silver in oil in a tweeter crossover...and the sound became so smooth that it sounded that it took all the edges of the music..so trumpets and cymbals and all other metallic sounds did not sound like a trumpet or a cymbal.
Apparently the Audio Note's copper foils sound better than the Jensens copper foils. (Just read about it...never heard it myself)
I have 2 ouputs on my DIY triode preamp. One has Mundorf Silver Oil, the other has Jensen Oil copper foil.
Everytime I experiment changing tube assortment anywhere, a cable or a speaker either one or the other output comes handy for synergy.
I would say that in absolute terms the Mundorf is more balanced and the Jensen more fleshed out, but a bit shy in HF analysis annd presence.
Everytime I experiment changing tube assortment anywhere, a cable or a speaker either one or the other output comes handy for synergy.
I would say that in absolute terms the Mundorf is more balanced and the Jensen more fleshed out, but a bit shy in HF analysis annd presence.
FWIW, I've compared teflon film/foil to Mundorf silver, Audio Note copper foil, Jensen copper foil, Jensen aluminum foil, MultiCap polypro foil, Sonicap polypro and a host of others and the teflons were superior = more musical = less hardness, less veiling, etc. The only cap I've found to better teflons are liquid teflons. YMMV.
FWIW, I've compared teflon film/foil to Mundorf silver, Audio Note copper foil, Jensen copper foil, Jensen aluminum foil, MultiCap polypro foil, Sonicap polypro and a host of others and the teflons were superior = more musical = less hardness, less veiling, etc. The only cap I've found to better teflons are liquid teflons. YMMV.
I use and like the teflon V-caps in my pre-amplifier and power amplifier, here is the site:
http://www.v-cap.com/tefloncapacitors.html
I have tried both the audio note and jensen pio's in the past and find V-caps preferable. I think their tonal balance and resolution is pretty outstanding in my own designs.
I would follow the manufacturers recommendation for mounting and burn in based on my experience with them.
edit: for clarity
http://www.v-cap.com/tefloncapacitors.html
I have tried both the audio note and jensen pio's in the past and find V-caps preferable. I think their tonal balance and resolution is pretty outstanding in my own designs.
I would follow the manufacturers recommendation for mounting and burn in based on my experience with them.
edit: for clarity
Hi 100db, I've tried numerous varieties of teflons, Rel-Cap, AudioCap, Russian, Component Research, metallized, V-Cap. I prefer V-Caps of all of them.
The Sonicaps I've tried are Gen 1.
The Mundorf, Audio Note and Jensen PIOs, to my ears, sound smooth, but lack the air and detail of teflon caps, which also, IME, have better bass. The PIOs sound to me between decent polypropylene caps (Sonicap) and teflon caps. The limiting factor to the Mundorfs et al, despite their use of exotic plate materials etc, is the DA of their dielectric.
The Russian caps measure surprisingly well, but they are not extended foil designs, an element that limits their performance. They're otherwise amazingly well built.
The Sonicaps I've tried are Gen 1.
The Mundorf, Audio Note and Jensen PIOs, to my ears, sound smooth, but lack the air and detail of teflon caps, which also, IME, have better bass. The PIOs sound to me between decent polypropylene caps (Sonicap) and teflon caps. The limiting factor to the Mundorfs et al, despite their use of exotic plate materials etc, is the DA of their dielectric.
The Russian caps measure surprisingly well, but they are not extended foil designs, an element that limits their performance. They're otherwise amazingly well built.
100db said:
Tom, the teflon cap you've tried is the Russian teflon or the V-cap ?
How is the sonicap sounds like ( gen 1, gen 2 or plattinum ? ), how far behind Mcap silver-oil & Jensen copper foil?
thinking to try gen 1 on speaker network and maybe also gen 2 for 12au7 amp.
serengetiplains said:
Thanks for a great review Tom !
Would like to try the V-cap also, but it's too far from my budget ..... the 0.68uF cost almost half of my 12au7 total cost.
Any suggestion for the lower cost one ?
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