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Old 5th December 2005, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default Hum problem

Hello,

Iīve built a tube amp and it works great, I just have a problem with the hum and its not because the filament ac current, because iīve tried with dc and the hum itīs the same.

Iīve notice that when I plug the low canel there is not almost any hum or noice, it just starts when I use the hi channel, as soon as the ground connection of the jack umpluges the hum startes. Iīve look at the diagram an itīs ok, Can any one help me, Iīm just getting crazi with it.

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Old 6th December 2005, 02:45 AM   #2
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You probably have a ground loop. Some explanation of how the grounding is done plus a few pictures will be helpful in diagnosis.
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Old 6th December 2005, 05:03 AM   #3
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The hum is coming from the source... your guitar. Why all the difference between pickups
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Old 6th December 2005, 09:16 AM   #4
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Default probable a ground loop problem I guess

I just conected each tube ground in star and them all toogether with only one ground point, thatīs what I was told to do. So any one knows how can I finish with this hum or any advice??

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Where is the input socket grounded? Is it isolated from the chassis and returned to the star? Is the star at the input? Where is the earth safety ground? Are signal and earth safety ground connected together and if so, where?
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Old 7th December 2005, 10:31 AM   #6
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Default connections

the input jack is grounded at the first tube section, itīs not chasis isolated, (I think that Iīm getting radio frecuency interference). the start is not at the input, itīs close to the first filter, the earth safety ground itīs at the star point, and itīs conected by a 100k cap and a 10 k resistor.

I only notice the noice at hight volumenes, and like i said beafore itīs more noicy when I puge the hi channel.

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Iīve been triying other ground configurations that I found in the aiken amp page, and the noice itīs almost the same.
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Old 7th December 2005, 07:08 PM   #7
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Default PS Noise Problem Fixed

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the input jack is grounded at the first tube section, itīs not chasis isolated, (I think that Iīm getting radio frecuency interference). the start is not at the input, itīs close to the first filter, the earth safety ground itīs at the star point, and itīs conected by a 100k cap and a 10 k resistor.

I only notice the noice at hight volumenes, and like i said beafore itīs more noicy when I puge the hi channel.
My current project is very much like this. I also had a hum problem that was directly caused by an RCA-type input jack that wasn't insulated from the chassis. Main PS noise was getting in that way. Even though the measured DC resistance across the steel chassis was but a couple of ohms, and the noise barely showed up on the o'scope attached to the first preamp grid, that was enough given the open loop gain to cause some 50mVp-p at the speeks.

Insulating the input jack and connecting the return to the DC grounding point of the first stage cathode fixed the problem. It doesn't take very much, given any sort of half-way decent speeks, and sufficient gain, for the PS noise generated across a few ohms to become problematic.
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Old 7th December 2005, 07:53 PM   #8
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Default thank you

Iīll try that,

first I have to get the isolated jack, because this days here are the shops are closed but as soon as i can iīll isolte the input, I hope that this works.


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