Help: Toroid choke for a preamp

Irakli · 29th August 2005, 11:26 AM

Hi All,

I am building a tube preamp and need 10-15H @ 100ma toroid choke for power supply. Believe it or not, can't find any reasonably priced. I contacted Toroid.com and they qouted one for $250!
I do appreciate if somebody let me know where I can get one.

One more question please:
I have 50VA toroid transformer. can I use it as a choke? It measures 9H with only AC current flowing through it. Will inductance drop significantly with 100ma DC?

Thanks a lot , Irakli

analog_sa · 29th August 2005, 11:47 AM

Why does it need to be toroid?

kmtang · 29th August 2005, 12:36 PM

I believe toroid.com doesn't have standard chokes. They may have to build one as special. This may be why they asked of $250.

You may check with www.plitron.com. They make very good and high quality power transformer, OPT, and chokes for tube amps.

Johnny

tubelab.com · 29th August 2005, 11:55 PM

Toroids don't make great chokes since the DC tends to saturate the core. This means that a special gapped core must be used which is typically much larger. A conventional toroidial transformer will not work (I have tried it). A 1:1 isolation transformer will work, but not very well, if you connect the windings in series, out of phase, with a capacitor from the tap to ground.

If you must have a toroidial choke, try Plitron. They have them in their standard catalog, but the prices are not currently on the web. They are not cheap, but should be less than Toroid.com.

http://www.plitron.com

If you can live with a conventional choke the Hammond 158-M a 10 Henry 100 mA choke costs $16.50 USD at Antique Electronics.

http://www.tubesandmore.com

cerrem · 30th August 2005, 05:05 PM

Torroids make great chokes and I have designed plenty of them for military applications...
You don't need any special gapped core.....
The gap is distributed... You just need to choose the correct core material...
I wouldn't bother making one in your application.... Why not use a standard choke????

Chris

Irakli · 30th August 2005, 07:45 PM

Thank you all for your response.

I was thinking that Toroid ckoke will give me less magnetic interference. After all, it is a preamp. But if you guys think that regular Hammond choke will work fine, I'll go with it. It's easy to get and not expensive at all.

okkyn · 20th December 2005, 12:17 AM

So, for toroid choke, no special winding required (just one direction winding)? I have plenty toroidal core, I think I can make choke out of those.

Okky

pedroskova · 20th December 2005, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Irakli
Thank you all for your response.

I was thinking that Toroid ckoke will give me less magnetic interference. After all, it is a preamp. But if you guys think that regular Hammond choke will work fine, I'll go with it. It's easy to get and not expensive at all.

The Hammond will work just fine.

29th August 2005, 11:26 AM	#1
Irakli diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: washington, DC Blog Entries: 1	Help: Toroid choke for a preamp Hi All, I am building a tube preamp and need 10-15H @ 100ma toroid choke for power supply. Believe it or not, can't find any reasonably priced. I contacted Toroid.com and they qouted one for $250! I do appreciate if somebody let me know where I can get one. One more question please: I have 50VA toroid transformer. can I use it as a choke? It measures 9H with only AC current flowing through it. Will inductance drop significantly with 100ma DC? Thanks a lot , Irakli

29th August 2005, 12:36 PM	#3
kmtang diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver	toroid choke I believe toroid.com doesn't have standard chokes. They may have to build one as special. This may be why they asked of $250. You may check with www.plitron.com. They make very good and high quality power transformer, OPT, and chokes for tube amps. Johnny

29th August 2005, 11:55 PM	#4
tubelab.com diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida	Toroids don't make great chokes since the DC tends to saturate the core. This means that a special gapped core must be used which is typically much larger. A conventional toroidial transformer will not work (I have tried it). A 1:1 isolation transformer will work, but not very well, if you connect the windings in series, out of phase, with a capacitor from the tap to ground. If you must have a toroidial choke, try Plitron. They have them in their standard catalog, but the prices are not currently on the web. They are not cheap, but should be less than Toroid.com. http://www.plitron.com If you can live with a conventional choke the Hammond 158-M a 10 Henry 100 mA choke costs $16.50 USD at Antique Electronics. http://www.tubesandmore.com __________________ Too much power is almost enough! Turn it up till it explodes - then back up just a little.

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analog_sa diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sofia	Why does it need to be toroid?

30th August 2005, 05:05 PM	#5
cerrem diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego, CA	Torroids make great chokes and I have designed plenty of them for military applications... You don't need any special gapped core..... The gap is distributed... You just need to choose the correct core material... I wouldn't bother making one in your application.... Why not use a standard choke???? Chris

30th August 2005, 07:45 PM	#6
Irakli diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: washington, DC Blog Entries: 1	Thank you all for your response. I was thinking that Toroid ckoke will give me less magnetic interference. After all, it is a preamp. But if you guys think that regular Hammond choke will work fine, I'll go with it. It's easy to get and not expensive at all.

20th December 2005, 12:17 AM	#7
okkyn diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bukit Panjang	So, for toroid choke, no special winding required (just one direction winding)? I have plenty toroidal core, I think I can make choke out of those. Okky

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