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Old 19th August 2005, 10:24 AM   #1
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Default ecl86 - quick and dirty

Hi folks..

I bought an old blaupunkt radio. It has all the guts to make a stereo SE ECL86 amp (2x ecl86, opt's and power supply)

The radio still works and sounds descent, but i don't listen to radio and don't need the amp part.

I want to make a gift. So i have these components ready. Now i have to arrange some caps and resistors around them.

Any thoughts how i can squeeze the best out of it in a simple way?

There's a lot of talking about the rh84 amp, but i can't seem to find out what the rh means...
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Old 19th August 2005, 10:33 AM   #2
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"RH" indicates that the amp employs plate to plate feedback, which seems to be a good thing according to what Ive read on this forum.
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Old 19th August 2005, 10:59 AM   #3
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Default Try the Stoetkit

I heard good stories about it. Perhaps you can use that ECL82 schematic (or change tubes, ecl82/6bm8 is not so expensive).
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Old 19th August 2005, 11:16 AM   #4
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The Stoetkit is a push pull design, which means you would need different output transformers and power transformer (one pair of extra ECL86 tubes), which are quite expensive.

Ik also have a little SE amp with ECL86 which came out of an old record player. I have the schematic published on my webSite.

Low Budget Pat

There are some more schematics on the Internet for a single ended ECL 86. For example:

ECL86 stereo

[I]Note: It's quite fun with such a simple tube to build an amplifier, but you will need higher efficiency loudspeakers. It will only produce about 3 to 4 watts per channel.[/I
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Old 19th August 2005, 12:45 PM   #5
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Found this one. Forgot to tell you i had that em87 tube in the radio too

There is an em84 in there too, but my guess is that it's dead.

http://www.loewenkatapult.de/Schema_ecl86.htm

Any thoughts on the quality of the schematic?

My cd player has a capacitor coupled out, my guess is i can ditch the input caps and just take a 100k pot and 1k gridstopper?

I looked at the opt's and they seem to have that extra feedbach winding on them.

I just can't fugure out why it has that cap over the primary of the opt...

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Old 19th August 2005, 02:48 PM   #6
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I don't know of the quality of the schematics. As far as technical aspects of electronics, I'm a bit of a nono.

I would like to rebuild/rewire my amplifier and have been looking for an alternative schematic. Have had contact with Marco from Marco's knutselsite. Just send him a mail, he is quite helpfull.
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Old 19th August 2005, 08:14 PM   #7
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wanted to salvage the tranny's

so i measured them to see the connections..

got some results that seem awkward to me. on the tranny there are a resistor and a capacitor

i made a quick pic of the results. any thoughts? especially the 2.2k measure seems really odd (it had an em87 output indicator! the leads seem to go to that part of the radio)
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Old 21st August 2005, 10:07 AM   #8
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Got reallly lucky yesterday. Went to this computer dump i knew had a box of tubes, so i pulled some out. I saw the posted schematic with a ez80 rectifiction. Saw one in the box, next to an ez 81. Further a box with sylvania ecc83 and an em80.

I'm new to tubes, so the nubers rang some bells, but didn't know exactly what i bougt.

payd 10 euro (seemed fair) for the four. I had to go to the shop in front to pay. There i saw this very cool metal housing. Price: 12 euro! It's about 40x40x15 cm. Indistrial grey flake painting.

Got home, opened the boxes and found out it was a pope ez80, philips ez81, and egro em80 (tuning eye). The ecc 83 turned out to have a pcl805 in it.

didn't know what it was so checked the internet: found this:

pcl85 regulator

How cool is that? Now i have all the components to make a really nice piece of construction! Tube rect, tube regulated ecl86 amp!

Can't wayt to begin!
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Old 7th September 2005, 09:11 AM   #9
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this thread is obviously dead..

for future reference:

it sounds wonderfull!

REALLY good.

And i just used the old parts of the radio. I'm gonna switch the coupling caps and leave it as is...

Oh, and the em87.... it's sooo cool...
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Default Kolster Philadelphia ECL86 schematic

Hi Beamet.

This old thread smells like the dust of a grandpa's radio rescued from the attic

I am in the same situation: I have an old Kolster Iberica record Player and I want to use the two German made ECL86, and the output iron, to build an amplifier for a friend.

I think will buy a new power transformer, because that one has the 220V straight to the ground

Which schematic did you finally used in your design?

This is the schematic of the Kolster:
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