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Old 9th August 2005, 04:28 PM   #1
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Default 6.3V Rectifier Tube Lit by 5V

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I'm curious to know what will happen to a rectifier tube of filament voltage of 6.3 volt (e.g. 6CJ3 TV damper diode with cathode) if it is lit by a voltage of 5 volt instead.

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Old 9th August 2005, 04:41 PM   #2
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I think, it will shorten the tube's life. But I'm not a tube-guru, maybe I'm not right...
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Old 9th August 2005, 04:43 PM   #3
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the cathode will not generate enough electrons because it hasn't reached optimum temperature, so therefore it will not be able to deliver the desired current.
Eventually it will destroy the cathode (cathode stripping)
this can take a while though...
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Old 9th August 2005, 04:44 PM   #4
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It won't get hot enough to emit significant electrons. The anode will then drag all available electrons from it and expose the cathode surface to ion bombardment which will destroy it in short order. Give the heater 6.3V - and if that means buying a cheap and cheerful 6V toroid, then do it.
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Default My test says wrong..........

The oversized filament in that tube will emit plenty of electrons. On my tube tester with 300 volts and a 100ma load, no dofference from 6.3 to 5 volts. Do expect to derate current to say 80% & expect some lower tube life- no big deal on these cheap tubes.
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Old 10th August 2005, 12:56 AM   #6
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Default BTW - Rectifier is a 6CJ3........

with a 6.3 volt @ 1.8 ampere Damper rectifier. I would not try this 5 volt trick on a EZ80 or EZ81 and simular small 6.3 volt rectifiers.
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Old 10th August 2005, 08:09 AM   #7
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Well, experiment beats theory any day!

However, you have to ask, "Is it good engineering to deliberately run a valve in a way that theory says is damaging?" I can't help feel that this kludge will come back and bite you on the foot at some point in the future. A 6V toroid is cheap.
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I rememer here somewhere PRR has explained very well about different working conditions on different heater types...

I thought that was a 300B related topic...
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Old 10th August 2005, 06:15 PM   #9
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Others have done such without any issue reported on the TV damper rectifier tubes. The designer should just bite it cost wise and use a Mullard GZ34 or a pair if current is excessive for one tube.
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