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Join Date: May 2005
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I'm used to building battery powered guitar pedals, and I've dicided to build a tube amp.
specifically, thefirefly tube amp . where i live i have 220vac from the wall outlet, and the amp itself needs 207vac, and it seems a little silly to me to add a transformer: 220 to 207... can i just connect the amp to the power grid with no transformer? is there another way to "get rid" of 13 volts? a risistor perhaps? will it burn if i dont get rid of 13 volts? all help is apriciated. |
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For safety sake all equipment should contain a mains transformer even if it is only 1:1. It could very well save your life or the life of someone near and dear to you one day.
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Unless you are on a mission to become a 'rock and roll suicide' you will definitely need a transformer. Transformerless ht was often used in old valve radios but this meant that every part of the circuit including the chassis had to be insulated and not 'touchable' by a user. The reason: If the mains polarity gets reversed, the chassis becomes live - in your case, your guitar would become live
You will need a transformer to supply the heaters anyway so why not find one which does both |
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![]() to the 2nd question: if i add a 1:1 transformer, will i still be endangering me or my closest? |
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I have an idea. What if I connect one wire to mains live and orher to ground? Also, i use only one diode to rectify AC, so chassis is grounded.
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Guys,
How much is your life worth to you and your family/friends? More than the 30-40$ it would cost for a mains transformer?
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Stone The Crows?
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Could anyone explain why my idea is wrong? Chassis is grounded, so noone would get hurt if touch the chassis. If I touch chassis and B+ at the same time I would get almost the same shock even if I would use a transformer. |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Chatham, England
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If your amp were plugged into a socket, or had a cable with live and neutral/earth reversed, the whole thing would be at mains, including any instruments plugged into it.
Once again, is your life really worth less than 30-40$? Really?
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"Could anyone explain why my idea is wrong? Chassis is grounded, so noone would get hurt if touch the chassis. If I touch chassis and B+ at the same time I would get almost the same shock even if I would use a transformer."
Your idea is wrong because it's deadly. A transformer will give you isolation and, most importantly, will limit the amount of current that will surge through your body when you touch the B+ line. Without a transformer, the current is limited only by the rating of your circuit breaker (or fuse).
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