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Old 13th May 2005, 05:47 AM   #1
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I'm visting HK at present and am about to buy an 845 SE (the Kelly Tube Art/ Premier Audio 845).

A pair of standard Shuguang 845s are c. USD 152, while the newer Shuguang 845Bs are c. USD 433.

A US review I saw once said the B is a lot better.

Any knowldege, experience or thoughts?

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Old 13th May 2005, 05:20 PM   #2
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Are these prices for the output tubes only? Those prices seem quite high to me. Shuguang 845 commonly sells for under $40 ea here in USA at wholesale.. I would have thought they were a lot cheaper in HK..

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Old 14th May 2005, 03:44 AM   #3
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Yes tubes only. I suspected they were a bit high.
The dealer has a great amp and I thought i'd get the lot from him.

Thanks for your advice - I'll shop around for the tubes too

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Old 14th May 2005, 08:43 PM   #4
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Good luck! Let me know how things turn out. I have a friend with a homebrew 845 amp and would be interested in hearing your impressions of the 845B if you go that route. Incidentally many who claim satisfactory performance from the Chinese 845 report that vintage ones perform far better. Might want to look around for some GE, Amperex or RCA types.. (They are rare and pretty costly so be forewarned..)

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Old 17th May 2005, 07:15 AM   #5
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I believe that the Western Electric are the best, but supposedly the new 845Bs are nearly as good for (is it half) the price.

My exchange rate was wrong earlier, 845Bs are 2000 HKD = c. USD 257.
vs (is it?) 500 USD for a pair of Western Electrics?
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Old 17th May 2005, 08:01 AM   #6
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Originally posted by rick57
I believe that the Western Electric are the best, but supposedly the new 845Bs are nearly as good for (is it half) the price.
Does WE make (or have they ever made) 845s? They may have made an equivalent but it was likely a different ID#.

AFAIK, the most desirable and expensive NOS 845s were made by United Electronics and RCA. Single, unmatched and "as they come" branded NOS 845s are sold by AES for over $300 USD each. You can bet NOS Westerns would be a lot more if they made them. I'd wager the NOS United and RCAs go for more than $500 USD each.

Valve Art 845s (Chinese) are sold by AES for $45 USD each. AES are international sales friendly, BTW. I've done so much business with them that last year they sent me an unrequested catalog and a fridge magnet!
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Old 17th May 2005, 08:11 AM   #7
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Here you go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...770558447&rd=1

Not quite $500 each, but you're taking some risk buying from unknown sellers on eBay. From a solid seller like AES, these would cost more.
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Old 23rd May 2005, 09:21 AM   #8
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Default FYI

Western Electric equivalent to 845 = WE 284A/B/D

I can't find any for sale. New bid price (they're buying yours at this price) at Vacuum Tubes Inc. is the same as a WE 300B ($250 USD) so they aren't cheap.
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Old 23rd May 2005, 12:25 PM   #9
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Thanks for the info. IF I go 845, at those high prices, Id start with the newish Shuguang 845Bs. The modern Chinese can do most things.


BTW, having a tilt of taste towards the Sea Pistols?
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Old 23rd May 2005, 03:05 PM   #10
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By the way, I have a pair of Shuguang mesh plate 300B but I don't like the sound of it. They are restting in peace. May be I can put them on the e-bay to get some cash back.


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