DigitalSignalProcessing -> future?

[Polimorph]

Can enyone help me post an image? (*.jpg format, but I can transform it in anything that will work).

[benny]

ha... that's funny. i just want to say, hey

what do u like more, eyes or ears

i like ears better, but i will still look at the pretty picture... only if i have to...

anyway, yes i can help you put a picture up. to attach an image go to the attach file part at the bottom of the purple reply window thing.

keep it real

[benny]

what do u like more, eyes or ears

another thing on that... are you going to post it (software) up on the internet for anyone to download... if you want a true opinion on how it actually sounds, then like you ask, eyes or ears???? i'm going with ears for now, and would like to hear it put through it's paces.

cheers

[Polimorph]

If u have Creative Live! or Audigy1 or 2 attached to your computer u can try too.
Here's the link 4 downloading the software:

http://download.kxproject.lugosoft.com/

You have here the drivers, the sdk, and some information. The drivers were made esspecially for the users hwo want more out of their SB's. After you install it u can also visit their forums, but I really didn't get any valuable information there. Maybe this is the place .

ps:!!my image is too big to be uploaded (now is a jpg file)!!

[Polimorph]

The sound that I've obtained is very very clean, much cleaner than default. I think this is already a progress.

[benny]

hi,

it's good to hear that your software gives a better sound. although i think to claim it to be able to model a tube amp is a bit of a big claim to make, if it's making a nicer sound, that's all that matters. it doesn't matter if it's not a copy of a tube amp because it's got to be much better than what you're normally getting out of a computer. i think it would be nice to use a valve power amp to amplify the processed sound of this software from the computer. I think that would give an even better sound.

If u have Creative Live! or Audigy1 or 2 attached to your computer u can try too.

is this another software? if so, where do i get it?

keep it real

[Polimorph]

Same software I use. If I may repeat I personally use a Creative Live. Thanks for the regards.

[DrDeville]

Thanks to all, for your civil posts. Amazingly enough,
this thread, which looks a lot like flame bait,
has remained friendly.

In gratitude, I offer my own contribution.

Polymorph's dancing fingers wrought:

I really worked hard to make it function as it is now, but it sounds very very much tube like. So you never mind about the power amplificator. It can be one Si based but be carefull, 'cause it has to be a very linear one

Therein lies the rub. Many rubs, actually.

Your central misconception is that transistor amps are
distortion-free. In fact, all amps product distortion, and
tube-lovers simply find tube distortion less annoying than
transistor distortion.

So, even if you were able to synthesize tube distortion,
your scheme just adds tube distortion to transistor
distortion, making things worse, not better.

An analogy-- Scooter prefers a sunburn to a broken leg.
So, upon breaking his leg, he tries to make himself happier...
by getting a nasty sunburn.

Some of the other rubs are:

* tube stages may prevent or filter out some of the distortion caused by digital or solid state components--your scheme doesn't do that.

* your scheme does not accurately reproduce the tube distortion function.

* etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.

So your proposal has little logical merit, but in some ways that is beside the point. Audio, like all art, is a very subjective experience. So if your processor makes music sound better to you, great! Just don't think you have an objective justification for your method being better.

And don't forget that this forum demonstrates one of the appeals of tubes--for the clever DIYer, they are not expensive monsters. For those with persistance and ingenuity, much fun and musical pleasure can be had at a bargain price! Join us!

Whatever your path, happy listening and tweaking!

Best,

George "Zen Master" Ferguson

[Polimorph]

Thank you for your post . Don't let me be missunderstud!
I asked if it is possible for the tube era to dissapear in the near future and have in mind that I like them too. I won't make things change, and please don't kick me out of this thread because I wanted to see what ppl are thinking of this ! I hardly wait some DSP addicted folks more knoledgeable than me, just by myself I can't demonstrate anything.
So I wish you all happy listening and come by.

Respect.

[DrDeville]

Respect.

Wow, isn't that really the heart of it?

They say that respect, like most social graces,
is given as well as earned--you've done both!

Back to the topic at hand: I personally believe
that DSP offers intriguing possibilities to the
audio pragmatist, and perhaps even to the audio purist.

You propose adding euphonic distortions, but
what about removing otherwise inevitable
distortions?

One obvious example is compensating for quirks
of specific loudspeakers, room acoustics, and their
interactions.

But what about more sneaky applications, like
within tube/transitor amp feedback loops?
Traditional feedback corrects some distortions, but
can add others in phase, tone, IMD, and overload recovery.
Perhaps feedback DSP could correct for this.

Just a thought.

By the way, I looked up your location. Wow!
Hello "Heart of Transylvania"!

Best,

George "Don't Be Afraid--All I Want Is Your Triode" Ferguson