Has anyone ever used the 6C41C in PP?

M Gregg · 05:20 PM

Just a quick question,

Has anyone ever used the 6C41C in push pull configuration in an amp?

I was looking on line just for interest and there doesn't seem to be any schematics wonder why?
Is the sound not as good as other tubes..

Regards
M. Gregg

Blaireau · 22nd April 2013, 07:38 AM

6S41S is about one half of a 6S33S. There is no known reason to say it won't do the trick in a PP amp. Output impédance should be around 2400 ohms from plate to plate. I never tried those tubes, simply because I designed my own amps around 6S33S tubes. 6S41S have about the same plate dissipation as the 2 triodes from a 6AS7G, 6080, or 6N13S. It's worth a trial.

elektroj · 22nd April 2013, 10:29 AM

6S41S internal construction looks exactly like one half of a 6S33S. I've seen them side by side. This one could be a "sleeper"..

Triodethom · 22nd April 2013, 06:26 PM

look at 6336 amps for general idea . Not sure as to how linear this tube is . i would not rule it out with out a try. and this thread6S41S P-P Amp Initial Query

Abszero · 23rd April 2013, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M Gregg

Just a quick question,

Has anyone ever used the 6C41C in push pull configuration in an amp?

I was looking on line just for interest and there doesn't seem to be any schematics wonder why?
Is the sound not as good as other tubes..

Regards
M. Gregg

Hi Gregg,
I've never try pp, but at some point I played with this tube in SE. I used it with UBT-1 one electron OT 1600/4-8-16. Not a perfect match , but close enough. For driver I used 6E5P and they were no weaker points in the signal path to make me doubt. I could say that the sound didnt impress me much. It is not too bad just a little to harsh and with less personality. Finally I built a voltage regulator with the 6C41C where the tube performs great. Maybe I didnt play enough with the operating point and got discouraged too early. Hope you will find a better use in a PP configuration.
Best,
Radu

piano3 · 23rd April 2013, 11:50 AM

I seem to remember that there was an opinion expressed, for what it is worth, on some website or other that it was not as good in SE as 6S33S. Without going into the pros and cons of using regulator triodes in SE, it seems difficult to imagine why it would not perform as well in push-pull as any of the other valves of this type. Maybe the sockets put some builders off and the fact that it seems a bit less commonly available than 6S19P or 6S33S. It shares the same cool looks as 6S33S.

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M Gregg diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK	Has anyone ever used the 6C41C in PP? Just a quick question, Has anyone ever used the 6C41C in push pull configuration in an amp? I was looking on line just for interest and there doesn't seem to be any schematics wonder why? Is the sound not as good as other tubes.. Regards M. Gregg __________________ What is the sound of one hand clapping? Last edited by M Gregg; 21st April 2013 at 05:20 PM.

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Blaireau diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dijon	6S41S 6S41S is about one half of a 6S33S. There is no known reason to say it won't do the trick in a PP amp. Output impédance should be around 2400 ohms from plate to plate. I never tried those tubes, simply because I designed my own amps around 6S33S tubes. 6S41S have about the same plate dissipation as the 2 triodes from a 6AS7G, 6080, or 6N13S. It's worth a trial. __________________ http://constructions.f6fkn.com

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22nd April 2013, 10:29 AM	#3
elektroj diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2011	6S41S internal construction looks exactly like one half of a 6S33S. I've seen them side by side. This one could be a "sleeper"..

22nd April 2013, 06:26 PM	#4
Triodethom diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newnan GA	look at 6336 amps for general idea . Not sure as to how linear this tube is . i would not rule it out with out a try. and this thread6S41S P-P Amp Initial Query

23rd April 2013, 11:50 AM	#6
piano3 diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London,UK	I seem to remember that there was an opinion expressed, for what it is worth, on some website or other that it was not as good in SE as 6S33S. Without going into the pros and cons of using regulator triodes in SE, it seems difficult to imagine why it would not perform as well in push-pull as any of the other valves of this type. Maybe the sockets put some builders off and the fact that it seems a bit less commonly available than 6S19P or 6S33S. It shares the same cool looks as 6S33S.