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Old 29th March 2013, 12:45 AM   #11
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I saw Midway in the theater with the Sensurround, they located the modules in the rear corners, taking out a series of seats. Cerwin Vega badges were on the 14? ft cube shaped modules.
Great news!! The sub-harmonic track was kept on the current media used when this movie shows up on cable. Most people don't notice it or don't have the appropriate system to hear/feel this effect.


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Old 29th March 2013, 07:14 AM   #12
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While technically not off-topic......Why not all-tube for your viewing & listening pleasure? A vintage McIntosh for the sound & a Top-of-the-line CRT TUBE for your eyes. I really cannot stand Plasmas, LEDs, projectors, at. al.
Our set is a 32' Sony (4:3) 12 yrs old or so. There is a power up surge that has to be heard to be believed! "Once upon a time" Sony made a CRT at about 36" in a 16:9 ratio for a few short years quite the giant thing .....I will be searching for this vintage set when our current one goes POW!

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Old 29th March 2013, 08:06 AM   #13
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Well 3CCD HD projectors are much better in most aspects, like gear weight, space it occupies and image size it delivers especially. However most recent movies are lacking natural footage and hi quality soundtracks.

Wish cinematography will change the route at some point from artificial blasts and faked renders to something on a par with Barry Lindon.
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Old 29th March 2013, 09:02 AM   #14
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Imagine how good a TV using a CRT with the latest circuits would be.
As far as I can see even the latest TV can't render the fine detail like a CRT. But Modern TV's are huge and cheap to make.
Only thing I see is the cost of running the output tubes when 6550's are getting so expensive and have such short lives. 807's would be good they are cheap and last.
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Old 29th March 2013, 09:41 AM   #15
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3LCD, LCOS or 3DLP projectors are way better in terms of color rendition than flat screens due to the nature how 3 color beams projectors are mixing colors. They are pricey though.
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Old 29th March 2013, 10:41 AM   #16
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movies have a much greater dynamic range than most popular music, by a huge margin. I think it is a big reason for most $'s going to hometheater "industry" over stereo, because the movie mastering engineers remember how to use dynamic rangeno loudness war= better audio entertainment.
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The reason why big money has been moving in to home theater is because larger screens have gone down in cost along with the multichannel processing and amplification gear. A popular feature on receivers (and now sound-bars) is the dynamic range compression processing. Having dynamic range in the audio track is more of a hindrance than a draw when mass market consumption is concerned.
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Old 29th March 2013, 11:52 AM   #18
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Possibly but I think the compression feature is the right way to do things. Imagine if we lived in an audio world were dynamic range processing was left to the end user. People use it when the TV is on watching something mundane or at low volumes. The excitement, thrill of home theater is the raw dynamic range of the soundtracks.
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Old 29th March 2013, 01:36 PM   #19
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movies have a much greater dynamic range than most popular music, by a huge margin. I think it is a big reason for most $'s going to hometheater "industry" over stereo, because the movie mastering engineers remember how to use dynamic rangeno loudness war= better audio entertainment.
Interesting measures in dB

-80 UNDERWATER NUCLEAR SUBMARINE MICROPHONES LISTENING TO SHRIMP CHEWING ON FOOD AT 100 METERS DISTANCE
13 ORDINARY LIGHT BULB HUM

85 BEGINNING OF HEARING DAMAGE, EARPLUGS SHOULD BE WORN

93.98 = 1 PASCAL PRESSURE (SI)

125 DRUM SET-ONLY AT THE MOMENT OF STRIKING
128 HUMAN HEAD HAIR BEGINS TO DETECT VIBRATION
133 GUNSHOT
145 HUMAN VISION BEGINS TO VIBRATE MAKING IT SLIGHTLY BLURRY
165 JET AIRPLANE, BOEING 727-15,000 LBS OF THRUST
180 1 POUND T.N.T. AT 15 FEET
207 BOMB, SMALL SIZED 250 POUNDS
209 BOMB, MEDIUM 500 POUNDS
215 BATTLESHIP NEW JERSEY FIRING ALL 9 SIXTEEN INCH GUNS
310 KRAKATOA VOLCANO ERUPTION-1883 A.D.

I hope movie industry would not tend to reproduce natural sound levels especially KRAKATOA eruption or New Jersey firing. Honestly it would be much comfortable if blasts shots jet exhausts sonic booms and similar noise would be decreased further in volume in compare to speech levels since they are not of realistic loudness in movies anyway.
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85 BEGINNING OF HEARING DAMAGE, EARPLUGS SHOULD BE WORN

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That's hours, not milliseconds. The beauty of a highly dynamic range recording is the peaks (110+db) are milliseconds while the average can be under 80dB. Real sounds are dynamic, its why the music industry has failed for 20 years while home theater has thrived. Not Mp3, or pirating, or other excuse, poor mastering. Luckily movie industry has in general been smarter. Even a lot of concert videos are better than their CD counterparts.
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