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Old 15th February 2013, 01:11 PM   #1
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Default Tamura F2011/el34 x 4

Hi guys,
I manage to get hold of pair of Tamura f2011(3.5k/pp/ul/100w)
and a 20 el34 tubes.
so I'm after a good schematic el34 PPP.
if you guys can recommend me something that sounds good and is not to complicated that would be awesome!
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Old 15th February 2013, 01:30 PM   #2
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I would recommend classic topologies like Williamson, Mullard 520, or floating paraphase/push pull. I can post schematics when will be back at home.

Very good Mullard 520 variant was discussed at diyaudio, search for PP Mullard thread.
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Old 15th February 2013, 03:49 PM   #3
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I just designed a pcb for an universal PP amplifier.
The schematic for 5881 / 6L6 is this:

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I tested this circuit with 6V6, 5881, EL34 and EL509 and it works perfectly.
(ofcourse with different OPT's)

You can omit C8 and R22 and you need to determine the value for R6 (about 3k = 16 dB GNFB).
This resistor determines the amount of GNFB. Also C3 can be omitted with good output transformer.

With UL connected EL34, 4k to 8 ohms OPT and 450 V supply voltage, the output power was some 40 W.
With pentode connection and 500 V anode-/400 V g2-voltage, the output power was some 65 W.

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Old 15th February 2013, 06:36 PM   #4
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I would like to recommend one of these schematics, available at tubebooks.org
I tested them myself, with very good results.

Williamson (combine enhancements from these 2 for best result):
"Modernize your Williamson" by David Hafler
"Improving the Williamson Amplifier" - Talbot, Wright

An Approach to Audio Frequency Amplifier Design, G. E. C. Valve and Electronics Department
Look for amplifier codenamed "88-50"

You can swap output tubes used in these builds with EL34 and corresponding output transformer, adjusting bias accordingly. I tested them with 6550, KT88 and KT120.
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Old 15th February 2013, 11:37 PM   #5
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Thanks guys,i looked into it a little bit,what i am after is paralleled el34 push pull,thanks again
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Old 16th February 2013, 05:43 AM   #6
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Thanks guys,i looked into it a little bit,what i am after is paralleled el34 push pull,thanks again
Then you should just add an other pair of output tubes, each with own grid stopper resistors. The transformer impedance should be halved.
If you want to get good performance with your 3k5 Tamura, then the supply voltage should be not less than 500 V.

Do you plan to use UL or pentode ?
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Old 16th February 2013, 06:42 AM   #7
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Thanks Artosalo,i was thinking UL and to be honest i dont have much expirience and knowledge when it comes to tubes(few tube buffers but mainly transistors so far)
So I'm really looking for some ready made(tested) schematic cause I'm really unexpirienced with tubes.
Thanks again
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Old 16th February 2013, 07:09 AM   #8
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A "ready made/tested" circuit is such that should be built with exactly the same output transformer and tubes.
For example to change the output transformer to similar impedance but other type/manufacturer may require some modifications, which are usually not very problematic, but require some knowledge and test equipment.

As an example; I have built tube hifi-amplifiers in small series. Although I use exactly similar components to all amplifiers I still need to do some adjustmets and use test equipment to get the best performance.

It is difficult to think a situation when an inexperienced hobbyist without suitable test equipment could get excellent results when a lot of modifications are needed.
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