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surfstu
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PSU id and help (psu designer ii)

I have a transformer from an old heathkit s99, I presume it is approx 200ma but I'm not sure. I've attached a schematic for the circuit it came from. It was powering 4ecl86 and 3 ecc83's and 2 ef86's.

I have no idea of what values to enter into duncans psu designer, is the RMS V = 270 x 1.414 = 381V - and then how do I calculate the source resistance?

Is there a way to calculate more info from this transformer seeing as on the full scematic

HT 1 = 320V
HT 2 = 270V
HT 3 = 250V

cheers Stuart
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 26th January 2013, 05:17 AM #2 DUG   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: mississauga ontario canada "I have no idea of what values to enter into duncans psu designer, is the RMS V = 270 x 1.414 = 381V - and then how do I calculate the source resistance?" look at the data sheet for V10: GZ34 http://www.wooaudio.com/docs/tube_data/5AR4.pdf Hope that helps. __________________ Doug We are all learning...we can all help "You can't stop the signal, Mal. Everything goes somewhere..."
 26th January 2013, 02:48 PM #3 DF96   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2007 RMS voltage is 270V. Peak will be 381V. I believe PSUD2 uses RMS, so enter 270V. For source resistance measure primary and secondary resistance with a DVM, and then enter the results into the PSUD2 transformer calculator (or do the calculation yourself).
 26th January 2013, 03:18 PM #4 surfstu   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Thanks Df96, I didn't realise I could just stick a DVM on primary winding (mains side?) and then over the secondary winding (leave CT out?) to get resistances - that I could then apply to a formula to find the source resistance! If I then setup a circuit in PSUD2, using full wave rectifier (GZ34) followed by CRCRC will I be able to identify the current throught the circuit by seeing what flows through the final 5K resistor that PSUD2 puts in by default? Or do I change that final 'resistor to ground' to a resistance that matchs the perceived resistance of the amp I wish to build? If I wish to build the original Baby Huey amp that gingertubes modded for UL operation, should I be changing the value of the final 5k resistor of PSUD2? Thanks again for everyones help here, and thanks Dug for the data sheet
 26th January 2013, 03:35 PM #5 DF96   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2007 I'm not sure about the CT, as I can't remember what PSUD2 assumes for secondary resistance. You can use either a resistor or constant current load for your PSU. A resistor may better approximate the load of a real valve amplifier. Set it to whatever value is appropriate.
 26th January 2013, 03:40 PM #6 surfstu   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Thanks DF, but how do I know what value is appropriate for the final R in PSUD2 and... I just read somewhere that the primary resistance is taken across the mains, and the secondary is HALF the secondary... I'm guessing this means CT to one side of the secondary?
surfstu
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If this is the circuit I intend to build then is there a way of approximating the final R value?
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surfstu
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 26th January 2013, 07:38 PM #9 DF96   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2007 Find the current, then use Ohm's Law.
 27th January 2013, 05:52 PM #10 surfstu   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Would it be safe to say that the current drawn by this circuit (4 x ecl86) will be 4 x 35mA which is 140mA?

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