I Wasn't Away That Long, What's WIth The Price Hikes On All My Old Toys? - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Tubes / Valves

Tubes / Valves All about our sweet vacuum tubes :) Threads about Musical Instrument Amps of all kinds should be in the Instruments & Amps forum

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 7th December 2012, 08:34 PM   #1
Ogien is offline Ogien  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Unhappy I Wasn't Away That Long, What's WIth The Price Hikes On All My Old Toys?

I know this may sound like a stupid question but I've been out of the loop, regarding stereos, tube amps, tube pre-amps and various tube amplifier kits.

Since I recently regained my passion for all this stuff I started browsing eBay and Google and several of the online retailers that are still in business from my bookmarks.

Case in point, maybe 2 or 3 years ago I purchased the kit amplifier pictured below.
Click the image to open in full size.

When I bought it I paid $39 plus shipping. Today I went to see if that kit was still available and I noticed that they expanded the line a bit but what really caught my attention is that my $39 8 Watts per channel tube amplifier kit is now selling right around the $200 point? What?

I'm serious, could someone please fill me in on what happened to make the prices for these things to jump sky high in a relatively short amount of time?

Next there is eBay and everyone who has any type of tube amp or pre-amp listed it with "Vintage" listed in the title. Some of those "amplifiers" looked like they were buried in the ground for the last 10 years and yet they are being bid on and actual bidding wars take place. I saw some amp go for over $270 and it was complete junk. I mean I've been buying audio gear at garage sales (some really fantastic gear at that) since I was 12 years old and that amp that sold for $270 wouldn't get a second look from anyone back then. I can't explain just how horrible this amplifier was, just horrible. Naturally no tubes included, some of the wiring broken and the transformer half eaten by rust.

Guys, please, I'm begging you. Please tell me what calamity transpired in the 2-3 years that I was away from audio gear that cause prices to explode and everyone else collectively losing their spit?

I hadn't thought about the Bottlehead Foreplay in many years but since I was looking up kits I thought I'd see how much my first project was selling for now. I was extremely disappointed that the Bottlehead Foreplay (the original) is gone and replaced by the Foreplay II and then the Foreplay III and a much higher price point.

I'm kinda kicking myself for selling my Foreplay a few years ago as I could really use a decent per-amplifier right now.

It seems like there aren't any decent kits out there for less than $150 and that is really depressing cause sometimes you just want to buy a kit for the fun of building it and at that price that's a little expensive as just a fun afternoon activity.

Edit: If anyone has an extra tube for the pictured kit amplifier that you can spare than please PM me and we'll figure something out. Unfortunately one of my tubes broke when I was moving so I need to replace it. Also, if you happen to have a good idea for a nice enclosure/case to mount it in than please let me know.

Last edited by Ogien; 7th December 2012 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Forgot to mention something.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 08:41 PM   #2
DF96 is offline DF96  England
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Many things on ebay are now more expensive than they used to be. In some cases they are more expensive than buying in a shop or from a dealer. Yes, there are people who will pay more for an item from an unknown seller with no warranty than they could get it from a dealer.

Audio has now become a 'lifestyle' option so it attracts people with money but little knowledge.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 08:43 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Helsinki
What tube is that?
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 09:27 PM   #4
12B4A is offline 12B4A  United States
diyAudio Member
 
12B4A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Right here, on this screen
10GV8?
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 09:28 PM   #5
bigwill is offline bigwill  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
ECL82 or similar, surely
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 11:04 PM   #6
Ogien is offline Ogien  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by DF96 View Post
Many things on ebay are now more expensive than they used to be. In some cases they are more expensive than buying in a shop or from a dealer. Yes, there are people who will pay more for an item from an unknown seller with no warranty than they could get it from a dealer.

Audio has now become a 'lifestyle' option so it attracts people with money but little knowledge.
Well eBay has always been a double edged sword, there are deals to be had but there are also people who get caught up in bidding wars and drive prices up. Ebay isn't the major point for me though. The amp pictured above I bought from an online retailed a couple of years ago for roughly $40. It's a really nice little amp but I was blown away when I started checking up on things and found that the amp sells for right around $200 and that's not an eBay price either.

Just wow.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCurwen View Post
What tube is that?
I really hope that 12B4A & bigwill are right about the tube in question because I honestly haven't a clue.

It's strange but the remaining tubes I have for it have absolutely no markings of any type on them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12B4A View Post
10GV8?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwill View Post
ECL82 or similar, surely
BTW, if you two are right about what tube that is then you've just saved me a ton of homework in the form of research.

I've seen that amp mentioned here before. It's the 8 watts Stereo Audio Amp and I believe it's from the same line as the KG amp kits though I could be remembering that wrong so don't take it a gospel.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 11:16 PM   #7
Ogien is offline Ogien  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
I hope it's OK if I post a link but I'm 95% certain that I found exactly which amplifier I have.

Almost positive it's the S-5 Electronics K-12M Tube Amplifier Kit.

K-12M Tube Amplifier Kit

If it's not exactly the K-12 then it's from the same family which means that the tubes will likely be standardized between the brother amps, at least that's how it looks to me.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 11:27 PM   #8
freax is offline freax  Australia
diyAudio Member
 
freax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NSW
Its the end of the world dude, I'm fully preparing for mad max down here and getting my XT500 out of storage...

I was put off that kit because it was $200 when Scott17's kit was $299 without transformers or chassis... KT88 SE Basic or Master Kit

Like the sign says, "speed's just a question of money. How fast you wanna go?"
__________________
"It seems that perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away" - Antoine de Saint Exupéry

Last edited by freax; 7th December 2012 at 11:37 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 11:42 PM   #9
Ogien is offline Ogien  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
I like you guys. You're all completely crazy but I like it. I'm a newb to this site in case it wasn't painfully obvious.

Freax, Tube Audio meet NatGeo's Doomsday Preppers. I like it, it has pizzaz.
  Reply With Quote
Old 7th December 2012, 11:46 PM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Loganville, GA
I bought that same amp in 2007 for $140.00 from tubes and more. JMO, your memory may be faulty. Things are more expensive now and it will get worse.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My New Hi-Res Toys Salas Multi-Way 20 8th May 2012 11:19 PM
New toys but not sure what to do with them Abob89 Full Range 10 20th July 2011 11:59 PM
New toys TA2020 zlab Class D 18 12th January 2010 02:22 AM
My new toys pinkmouse Multi-Way 15 25th May 2003 09:31 PM
More new toys pinkmouse Parts 0 10th May 2003 08:20 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:48 PM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ©1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2