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pilovis 2nd October 2012 02:56 PM

Lab power supply for testing tubes
 
This is my project, based on low cost and semplicity.

It has three HT voltages, two heater voltages (not filtered) and stabilized negative bias voltage regulator 0 -20V (LM337).

NOTE: the HT outputs cannot be tied togheter!
If more than one HT voltage are required on same circuit (same ground), three separate transformer winding are required (110/220/300Vac).

The two heaters voltages are just rectified but not filtered with any caps, effective voltage should not change for heaters (same power dissipated).

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Inductors are iron core > 2H

HT output voltages depend on current, additional output series resistors may be added to get desired voltage.

NOTE: 1% resistors act like a "shunt" for measuring supply currents (measuring voltage drop) and also limiting peak currents.



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flatheadmurre 2nd October 2012 04:17 PM

My no good advise is:

A series regulator or a variac is simpler, only one circuit and no chance someone tries to use the different taps at the same time.

For bias supply i would prefer a separate winding.

For bias stack a couple of multiturn pots as voltage dividers, with unregulated ht you want unregulated bias.

Have 2 separate 6v heaters that you can series for 12v.

pilovis 2nd October 2012 04:29 PM

A series regulator or a variac is simpler, only one circuit and no chance someone tries to use the different taps at the same time.

Variac and series regulator (if variable) are both too expensive

For bias supply i would prefer a separate winding.

Extra cost, unnecessary :)

For bias stack a couple of multiturn pots as voltage dividers, with unregulated ht you want unregulated bias.

Circuit with LM337 is cheaper than a couple of multiturn pots.
Also, stabilized voltage is always better than
unregulated ;).

Have 2 separate 6v heaters that you can series for 12V

Extra cost, unnecessary :)

TheGimp 2nd October 2012 04:37 PM

You are full wave rectifying 6.3 and 12.6 V for your 6 and 12V supplies. They will be too high for tubes as the 6.3V will be closer to 9V and the 12.6V will be close to 18V!

This will blow heaters.

You will short diodes in your HV supplies IF you tie them together for a common ground.

pilovis 2nd October 2012 04:40 PM

You are full wave rectifying 6.3 and 12.6 V for your 6 and 12V supplies. They will be too high for tubes as the 6.3V will be closer to 9V and the 12.6V will be close to 18V!
This will blow heaters.

I did not use filter capacitors after rectifiers, effective voltage should not change for heaters (same power dissipated).

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You will short diodes in your HV supplies when you tie them together for a common ground.

The three outputs are not designed to be tied togheter, sorry I forgot to mention this advice (added). Good point! :)

flatheadmurre 2nd October 2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilovis (Post 3187577)
A series regulator or a variac is simpler, only one circuit and no chance someone tries to use the different taps at the same time.

Variac and series regulator (if variable) are both too expensive

For bias supply i would prefer a separate winding.

Extra cost, unnecessary :)

For bias stack a couple of multiturn pots as voltage dividers, with unregulated ht you want unregulated bias.

Circuit with LM337 is cheaper than a couple of multiturn pots.
Also, stabilized voltage is always better than unregulated ;).

Have 2 separate 6v heaters that you can series for 12V

Extra cost, unnecessary :)

Ok a series regulator will cost a few $ more but you need only one bridge and one set of caps.

A switch to choose the 220 or 300 winding not to burn of to much power in the reg.

I even think the caps cost more then the sand in the reg ?

If you go for unregulated HT donīt regulate the bias, that way they drift equally when mains drift.

Whatīs the differencce in cost for using you 2 windings as separate 6v instead of one 6 and one 12 ?

Keep heater AC for general purpose and add a small bridge and a 7806 with a couple of diodes to ground for "pre/phono" use.

EssB 2nd October 2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilovis (Post 3187595)
I did not use filter capacitors after rectifiers, effective voltage should not change for heaters (same power dissipated)

Then why rectify at all ? it just makes more noise

pilovis 2nd October 2012 08:53 PM

Because I had a 6V-0-6V 3A transformer and by using two diodes I can join the two 6V windings doubling the current (6A).

If you left the heaters floating respect to the amplifier circuit, there is no noise ;).

pilovis 2nd October 2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatheadmurre (Post 3187710)

If you go for unregulated HT donīt regulate the bias, that way they drift equally when mains drift.

This is just a cheap and easy lab power supply for testing tubes and repairing amps, for these purposes it is enough. ;)
Most of the components, including Shottky diodes and HT caps (to be tied together if voltages are not enough), can be recovered frorm an old computer's power supply.

If you need a precision and low noise power supply, to make THD or noise measurements, this project is not what you want.

speakerfritz 2nd October 2012 11:04 PM

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looks like the power supply to an amp I was involved in trouble shooting today.

as far as your circut goes...I like the concept....recommendations would be more options on bias voltages.

Plate Voltages 325, 400 VDC
Bias Voltages -60, -48, -36, -24, -14 VDC
Filament Voltage 6.3 VAC
Filament Current 6 Amps maximum filament current
Measurement Functions Plate Current (Ip) Range: 0 to 120.0 mA DC, ą 1.5 %


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