6N16 Valve break-in time

tazzo · 01:22 AM

Hi all

I'm new here.

I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves.

Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time?

Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance.

avp1 · 22nd March 2012, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazzo

Hi all

I'm new here.

I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves.

Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time?

Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance.

I wouldn't consider adding mini-tubes as upgrade, but rather degrade. Considering what your Yamaha is, do not expect any change from swapping capacitors.

tazzo · 22nd March 2012, 01:37 AM

It does sound warmer and smoother than before, and the bass is tighter also.

Wavebourn · 01:47 AM

Which tubes were there before you installed 6N16B there?

How big is B+, how much on anodes?

I can't see any valves there:

tazzo · 22nd March 2012, 01:49 AM

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

Wavebourn · 22nd March 2012, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazzo

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

avp1 · 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazzo

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

6n16b are Russian made mini tubes designed for applications where weight and space are limited. Their parameters are worse than ones of regular sized tubes. And in case of Yamaha they can't add anything other than distortion. I once saw radar system made on these type of tubes, but it was mobile station manufactured in early 1960th. And if I recall correctly they are limited to 100 volts at plate.

tazzo · 22nd March 2012, 01:59 AM

Wavebourn · 22nd March 2012, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avp1

6n16b are Russian made mini tubes designed for applications where weight and space are limited. Their parameters are worse than ones of regular sized tubes. And in case of Yamaha they can't add anything other than distortion. I once saw radar system made on these type of tubes, but it was mobile station manufactured in early 1960th. And if I recall correctly they are limited to 100 volts at plate.

Which parameters are worse? And worse than parameters of which tube?

Michael Koster · 22nd March 2012, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wavebourn

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

22nd March 2012, 01:16 AM	#1
tazzo diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2012	6N16 Valve break-in time Hi all I'm new here. I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves. Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time? Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance. Last edited by tazzo; 22nd March 2012 at 01:22 AM. Reason: bad spelling

22nd March 2012, 01:43 AM	#4
Wavebourn diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA	Which tubes were there before you installed 6N16B there? How big is B+, how much on anodes? I can't see any valves there: __________________ If I disappear suddenly, that means I finally created a time machine and pushed wrong button that brought me to Stalin's Russia. In any experiment any result is the result. Even if it is negative. Last edited by Wavebourn; 22nd March 2012 at 01:47 AM.

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22nd March 2012, 01:37 AM	#3
tazzo diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2012	It does sound warmer and smoother than before, and the bass is tighter also.

22nd March 2012, 01:49 AM	#5
tazzo diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2012	There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed. I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply. I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

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