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tazzo 22nd March 2012 01:16 AM

6N16 Valve break-in time
 
Hi all

I'm new here.

I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves.

Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time?

Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance.

avp1 22nd March 2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tazzo (Post 2955540)
Hi all

I'm new here.

I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves.

Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time?

Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance.

I wouldn't consider adding mini-tubes as upgrade, but rather degrade. Considering what your Yamaha is, do not expect any change from swapping capacitors.

tazzo 22nd March 2012 01:37 AM

It does sound warmer and smoother than before, and the bass is tighter also.

Wavebourn 22nd March 2012 01:43 AM

Which tubes were there before you installed 6N16B there?

How big is B+, how much on anodes?

I can't see any valves there:

http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite..._heatsink.jpeg

tazzo 22nd March 2012 01:49 AM

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

Wavebourn 22nd March 2012 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazzo (Post 2955564)
There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

avp1 22nd March 2012 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazzo (Post 2955564)
There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

6n16b are Russian made mini tubes designed for applications where weight and space are limited. Their parameters are worse than ones of regular sized tubes. And in case of Yamaha they can't add anything other than distortion. I once saw radar system made on these type of tubes, but it was mobile station manufactured in early 1960th. And if I recall correctly they are limited to 100 volts at plate.

tazzo 22nd March 2012 01:59 AM

http://i42.tinypic.com/tamumh.jpg

Wavebourn 22nd March 2012 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avp1 (Post 2955572)
6n16b are Russian made mini tubes designed for applications where weight and space are limited. Their parameters are worse than ones of regular sized tubes. And in case of Yamaha they can't add anything other than distortion. I once saw radar system made on these type of tubes, but it was mobile station manufactured in early 1960th. And if I recall correctly they are limited to 100 volts at plate.

Which parameters are worse? And worse than parameters of which tube?

http://istok2.com/scan/544_1.gif

Michael Koster 22nd March 2012 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wavebourn (Post 2955570)
Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

:up:


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