SiliconRay Kits

[wintermute]

Originally Posted by John L

I agree, but my point is still salient, in that you are not certain, beyond reasonable doubt, that he is the one. You aren't, are you?

And granted, this is a private forum, and the owner has the Liberty to hold up his thumb, or turn it down. As owner he/she can do that. But just as our society recognized innocence until proven of guilt, circumstantial evidence is just that.

The fact is that:

diyroger , sillicontube and Jeffrey689 have all posted from IP addresses in common with siliconray at some point or other. Some further investigation will be done. Jeffery689 mostly posted from a different address not in common (VPN?) Most of siliconray's IP's do not have reverse lookup addresses.

Tony.

[TV7]

Originally Posted by SY

When several IP addresses are in common and each of the "members" in question post primarily in siliconray threads praising siliconray, and he's been caught using multiple identities before, well, it's a stretch to call that a coincidence.

Maybe he/she? has multiple personalities, each with their own individual IP address......

[dgta]

Originally Posted by John L

I agree, but my point is still salient, in that you are not certain, beyond reasonable doubt, that he is the one. You aren't, are you?

And granted, this is a private forum, and the owner has the Liberty to hold up his thumb, or turn it down. As owner he/she can do that. But just as our society recognized innocence until proven of guilt, circumstantial evidence is just that.

Incorrect.

"Beyond reasonable doubt" is a very high standard only used for criminal offenses. For civil offenses you only need "preponderance of evidence", which is a much lower standard. SY has more than enough preponderance.

Launch him. There is no shortage of sellers

[Lo_Tse]

SY did the right thing by alerting the members that there "seemed" to be Sock Puppets pumping Siliconray in order to drum up business. However, the bottom line is that has anyone bought anything from Siliconray (the store) and felt that they have been cheated upon e.g. items purchased are different from the descriptions on their website, money sent but no delivery, poor quality products that last for abnormally short period of time? So far, I have not seen any reports/posts from any members complaining about bad business transactions involving Siliconray.

I want to make myself clear that I am not condoning the business practice of using Sock Puppets to promote business and I am not trying to defend Siliconray. Personally, the Sock Puppets posts do not have much influence on my purchase decision. They are not exactly feedbacks on EBay. But then even feedbacks on EBay can fail you sometimes. Hey, doing business transactions on the Internet always carry certain degree of risks. I have bought from Siliconray and the items arrived in a timely manner and the goods looked OK. For the price they charged, I have no complains. My queries were always reponded promptly, unlike some other vendors that are doing business on this forum.

I tend to agree with John L - let Siliconray demonstrated that "he" is a seller worthy of our business, or not. Meanwhile, if you do not feel comfortable buying from Siliconray, don't. Personally, I would do business with Siliconray again, simply because my past experience supports my decision.

BTW, I can assure everyone that I am not one of those Sock Puppets. SY you can check me out.

[John L]

No Lo_Tse, I'm sure you aren't under suspicion. Your join-up date pretty much dispels that. But every once in a blue moon, somebody sets multiple identities ahead of time, and then uses them selectively, but that takes a lot of planning.

Oh, that reminds me of something funny. I was on a forum around eight-nine years ago, where something totally out of the ordinary occurred. One of the members left the country to go on vacation. That was before smart phones, and cheap laptops were still a bit rare.

Shortly after leaving, his identity started posting on the forum, slow at first, but adding as it went. And each post became a bit stranger, and off in left field, as it went along. Soon, he had the forum in a total uproar, and the moderator staff was besides themselves. The posts were from somebody who was a natural clown/ham, and could have been a professional stand-up comedian.

Well, when the vacationing member returned, he had been suspended, and was in deep doodoo. After a lot of emails shooting back and forth, come to find out, his neighbor had been responsible for keeping and eye on the house, and going inside to make certain everything was safe and ok.

The vacationing member had things set up so he automatically signed in by reaching the forum site, and the neighbor had been hearing the member talk about things on that particular forum. So, while the member was on vacation, he went in and had a field day pulling one prank after another. It took a good while for the vacationing member to get himself set back up. After all, allowing more than one person on the same identity really can confuse things, and it is generally frowned upon.

And after all that, when it came out, everybody thought it was the funniest thing they had ever seen. The guy admitted that his neighbor was a practical joker, and kept the neighborhood in stitches all the time.

[sled108]

I'm getting a bit Worried Here...My Kit was shipped on Dec 12, and I was told that it could take maybe 2 Months...Well, it's getting close to 3 Months now and it's Past being able to go to PayPal about it...Has Anyone received Anything from SiliconRay? ...No Sock Puppets Please...

[siliconray]

Hi Sled, sorry for the slow shipping. A customer emailed my yesterday that he got his kit in good order. It was shipped on 27th Nov :-(((

[kevinkr]

Originally Posted by sled108

I'm getting a bit Worried Here...My Kit was shipped on Dec 12, and I was told that it could take maybe 2 Months...Well, it's getting close to 3 Months now and it's Past being able to go to PayPal about it...Has Anyone received Anything from SiliconRay? ...No Sock Puppets Please...

I have a friend who most definitely did receive a kit from siliconray about a month ago here in Massachusetts so he really does have tangible product, and yes I've seen the boards.

I'm expect he'll right it whatever the issue. China Post airmail is the most reliable means of getting things from China and HK in my experience.

[siliconray]

Thanks kevinkr. I believe sled is not worry about cheating. He just want to see the kit. Everybody will be very anxious after waiting for 3 months.

[Tony]

Originally Posted by sled108

I'm getting a bit Worried Here...My Kit was shipped on Dec 12, and I was told that it could take maybe 2 Months...Well, it's getting close to 3 Months now and it's Past being able to go to PayPal about it...Has Anyone received Anything from SiliconRay? ...No Sock Puppets Please...

this is nothing compared to my shipment of tubes out of moscow, it took 8months to get to my doorstep, i have given up....i was happy it got thru in the end.....