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Old 27th January 2012, 04:44 AM   #1
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Default Does anybody know anything about this German console

Hi, this is Curt-

Can anybody tell me or give my any information on this late 50's late 60's German console. Owner says it does not work but I am mainly interested in the speaker and it is complete for $50.00. I am going to look at this next week. I am including a picture and at this point, I don't have any more information.

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Old 27th January 2012, 04:56 AM   #2
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You wouldn't happen to have a brand? Better pictures?

I've taken apart something similar, but it was a while back. I'm guessing Grundig. Maybe even the one that was the donor for the RH84 i have.

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Old 31st January 2012, 05:00 AM   #3
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Hi Dave, I wish I had more info. The seller has it in storage and he couldn't remember the make.All I have is the picture. I'm going to meet him tomorrow,Tuesday. I think for $50.00 I probably buy it if it is not sold. If it is,I'll just have to concentrate on my newly acquired 1960 Magnificent Magnavox console Thanks again Curt
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If it is german, has a tube amp in it and speakers it is worth $50 just for salvage.

Post pictures after you bring it home.

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Old 31st January 2012, 06:43 AM   #5
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Hi, this is Curt-

Can anybody tell me or give my any information on this late 50's late 60's German console. Owner says it does not work but I am mainly interested in the speaker and it is complete for $50.00. I am going to look at this next week. I am including a picture and at this point, I don't have any more information.

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Hi Curt,
it seems to be a Grundig or Loewe Opta Console, Here in germany wie call them "Musiktruhe" "music chest".

Try Google and look for "Musiktruhe" in connetion with the major radio makers like Grundig, Blaupunkt, Loewe Opta, Philips, SABA, Telefunken, Schaub Lorenz, Siemens.

With a little patience you will find a picture of this radio set. Most of the german collectors pages are additional in english.

good luck!

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Good tip Wolfgang. I went thru the 1st 10 pages of images for both Grundig & LO, alot of Grundigs have the vertical slats theme, this one has the same layout but (from the small images) seems a bit fancier

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This is the page the image was associated with, but can't find the pic on it
Dampfradioforum • Thema anzeigen - Suche Musiktruhe ( allgemein )

The pic showed up in both the Grundig & LO search.

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A minor note of caution.
I've seen a few german Consoles of this (or slightly later) vintage. Quite a few used ELL80 Output Tubes.
These are dual audio output pentodes, 2 of these tubes (4 pentodes total) were often used for parallel push pull with just 2 output tubes.
If it uses those tubes then there is the negative that replacements are VERY expensive and reasonably hard to find. Of-course if it does use those tubes and they turn out to be good then you may find that you have maybe 4 times the purchase price in tube value.
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Ian,

I ELL80 can be replaced with 2 EL95... i've seen an ELL80 console with a factory installed daughter board with 2 EL95.

We did a nice little ELL80 amp (the 2nd tube is an EZ81) based on a Nordmende console.

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Old 1st February 2012, 05:28 AM   #10
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Default German console?

Hi, this is Curt. I went, looked and bought ($40.00) the German console today. I was a little disappointed because it looks like a lower end model and I cannot find the make on it anywhere. I was hoping it would have larger speakers. It has 5-1/2 x 9 inch oval wizer cone speakers, small tweeter and no crossover. The speakers look good. Cabinet looks in good condition, just a few small scratches. It has really cool speaker grill covers. Record changer appears to be complete and not tampered with. The amplifier is dirty but not rusty. Someone has loosened the transformer, tuning dial string is broken but the dial glass and controls are nice. I did not want to try and power it up. It has these tubes: ELL80, EAF801, ECH81, ECC83 and ECC85. I am attaching some pictures- I am not sure what I am going to do with it yet...
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