Which Chinese integrated tube amp have the power for Rock Song ?

[Johnsont]

I am new to tube amp ! What I more interested is which brand and model can cater to such high dynamic and speedy rock song with bass, drum and etc...Of course, I still love clear vocal, piano and etc..as well..

I know of Cayin, Yaqin but not much idea as which model is suitable for such song/music..Appreciate if you can share your thought and ideas since I am looking to buy one to start with..thanks.

 

[Johnsont]

Any suggestion as I am newbie ?thanks.

 

[lduarte1973]

I use a tube preamp and solid state power amp for rock (rock is supposed to be listened loud) , but if you want a tube amp look for something with as many watts as possible , it also depends on your speakers effeciency/sensivity

 

[Johnsont]

Thanks for the reply. I am having Monitor Audio Silver RS6 speakers..What do you think ?How many watts is the recommended for listening to rock song ?

 

[lduarte1973]

you speakers should be 88-90db sensivity , i would go with something like these (65w in ultra linear mode)

YAQIN MC-100B KT88 Tube Vacuum Integrated Amplifier SV | eBay

your speakers have a bright sound and lack low end , a active subwoofer should improve overall sound quality

from time to time some used Vincent ( shanling in china ) amplifiers are on ebay , they are hybrid (tube+transistor) , but have lots of power for your kind of speaker

 

[Johnsont]

Do you have Shanling website ? PM me if needed.
If I buy another subwoofer, which brand and model will match my speakers from watts perspective ? I assume will need preamp inorder to go for sub connection ?

Below model also fine ? Thanks and appreciate your sharing.
YAQIN MS-300C 300B x 2 Vacuum Tube Hi-end Tube Integrated Amplifier | eBay

 

[lduarte1973]

9.5w may be a little undwepowered for your speakers

this integrated with remote might be better (70W)

YAQIN MS-88B KT88 x 4 Vacuum Tube Integrated Amplifier | eBay

you need a way to connect the your source(s) ( pc , cd player ) to the line in of the sub amp , a preamp with line out might be the best option , it will also help your tube amp

a active sub(with built in amplifier) like this JBL , i have the es250p (400w) but the es150p (300w) is more than enough.

http://www.jbl.com/estore/jbl/us/product/productDetails.jsp?pid=ES150P

or you can build your own sub with a class d amp , there are many cheap ones on ebay

 

[lduarte1973]

A17CS (SV236 MK upgraded)

Vincent - SV-236MK Hybrid Stereo Integrated Amplifier - Vincent-tac

same model shengya version and vincent version

but be very careful when buying from chinese

if you are from usa this is the american dealer for shengya

ShengYa Audio Hybrid Amplification

 

[Johnsont]

Thanks for your advice. Appreciated ! I will check with china manufacturer direct. The shanya website said they have no other Internet distribution except the American distributor you mentioned.

Now, back to amp topic. With that Vincent model, it will definitely have the power for bass and can rock the house down with my rs6 speakers? Must I still need sub if I am going with Vincent amp? I read and looks like preamp is already inbuild right?

 

[PreSapian]

mingda mc34ab is your best bet for awesome sonics.

but i advise against chinese amplifiers because they always off-gas something foul.

 

[dhaen]

I second the Yaquin MC100 as I've repaired a few. Before you order be sure that you can repair or know a place/person who can if/when it fails. These are no less reliable than most valve kit but the manufacturer is a long way away from most of it's customers.

 

[lduarte1973]

Now, back to amp topic. With that Vincent model, it will definitely have the power for bass and can rock the house down with my rs6 speakers? Must I still need sub if I am going with Vincent amp? I read and looks like preamp is already inbuild right?

in my opinion you will need a sub with any amp even for rock music . once you have a sub you wont go back , trust me.

this has 150w amp , is enough for rock music , price should be around 230$ / 180€
http://www.jbl.com/EN-EU/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=E150P/230

you wont need pre amp with the vincent . Any of the vincent amps will do , more watts give more headroom and that´s always nice.

 

[lduarte1973]

this has 150w amp , is enough for rock music , price should be around 230$ / 180€
http://www.jbl.com/EN-EU/Products/Pa...?PID=E150P/230

by the way , I only listen to rock music and i have this sub , for the price it´s really good.

i have listened to the vincent amps and they are very good too , but expensive new , try to buy them used , with the vincent you will never be short of power , very powerfull amp.

with the tube amps , i recommend a pre amp but you can buy that later on .

 

[bonalux]

your speakers have a bright sound and lack low end , a active subwoofer should improve overall sound quality

Hi there, I own a pair of Monitor Audio RS6 and can assure you that they absolutely don't lack in the bass region, and if you place them too near of walls there are even too much of them.

Cheers.

 

[Johnsont]

Hi Gianluca,

Good day ! You are using tube amp with rs6 speakers ? Which tube amp you are using which have good bass for rock music ?

regards,
Johnson

 

[lduarte1973]

Hi there, I own a pair of Monitor Audio RS6 and can assure you that they absolutely don't lack in the bass region, and if you place them too near of walls there are even too much of them.

Cheers.

but they dont have the tight bass like you can get from a sub , and that makes all the diference.

 

[Johnsont]

How about mc-5881 for tight bass with dynamic song ? Any comments ?

 

[kstagger]

bi-amp. I use a 250W Threshold for my woofer, and a 50W Yaqin MC-10T for the tweeter. It's much better than either amp on it's own, especially with the tube amp rolled off in the bass.

 

[Johnsont]

What is bi-amp and how can I do it ? You have a picture to show me. Thanks

 

[lduarte1973]

See here

What is Bi-Amplification.

http://sound.westhost.com/bi-amp.htm