EU regulations

[TUBESMAN]

I'm wondering if there are any EU regulations that apply to the sale of vacuum tube audio power amps? Specifically EMI feed back into the AC line. Or radiated. Thank you for your help.

 

[radiostar]

Good question!!! And also high voltage danger ...

 

[Doz]

Should comply with CE. This includes electrical safety, heat etc.

EMC regulations should be met above 30MHz.

Whether they do or not ....

 

[DF96]

EMC and Low Voltage Directive regulations don't apply to anything made in China. They have special dispensation to add a CE sticker to anything.

 

[TheGimp]

It depends on the classification.

Class B line conducted noise now is tested from 10KHz to 30MHz.

RoHs requires lead free solder, among other restrictions.

 

[boywonder]

RoHs requires lead free solder, among other restrictions.

and lead free components, etc.

 

[payitforwardeddie]

It depends on the classification.

Class B line conducted noise now is tested from 10KHz to 30MHz.

RoHs requires lead free solder, among other restrictions.

That lead free stuff is rubbish. Can't see the point of it. Is anyone going around licking any soldered joint they can find?

 

[kevinkr]

That lead free stuff is rubbish. Can't see the point of it. Is anyone going around licking any soldered joint they can find?

That's not really the point, the point is what happens when the device in question reaches end of life, is not properly recycled, and ends up in a land fill leaching toxic materials into the local ground water. There are also specific EOL requirements related to RoHS

E waste is a huge and not very funny problem in the third world. Might want to educate yourself.

 

[Wavebourn]

That lead free stuff is rubbish. Can't see the point of it. Is anyone going around licking any soldered joint they can find?

Electronics is manufactured by businesses that try to sell more gadgets per time that inevitably go to dumpsters. ROHS protects environment from harmful waste. So called Industrialized Countries make 97 percent of garbage on the Earth. It is the main production of our civilization, and of course it has to be safe!

 

[techbiker]

Safety is important, however lead-free solder is not without its drawbacks. It has a higher melting temperature and there have been some reports that such solder has a higher risk of deteriorating over time. Have you heard of an Xbox 360 that has lasted longer than 3-4 years? The solder connecting the GPU to the motherboard lets go, resulting in a permanently bricked console (and the Red Ring of Death).

Pundits have linked the RRoD to problems with the lead-free solder Microsoft was using.

 

[Wavebourn]

Safety is important, however lead-free solder is not without its drawbacks. It has a higher melting temperature and there have been some reports that such solder has a higher risk of deteriorating over time. Have you heard of an Xbox 360 that has lasted longer than 3-4 years? The solder connecting the GPU to the motherboard lets go, resulting in a permanently bricked console (and the Red Ring of Death).

Pundits have linked the RRoD to problems with the lead-free solder Microsoft was using.

This drawbacks are important as well: the faster consumer electronics die, the better is for businesses.

 

[techbiker]

This drawbacks are important as well: the faster consumer electronics die, the better is for businesses.

As long as no one realizes what's going on and the warranties are short enough! lol

 

[cobra]

Safety is important, however lead-free solder is not without its drawbacks. It has a higher melting temperature and there have been some reports that such solder has a higher risk of deteriorating over time. Have you heard of an Xbox 360 that has lasted longer than 3-4 years? The solder connecting the GPU to the motherboard lets go, resulting in a permanently bricked console (and the Red Ring of Death).

Pundits have linked the RRoD to problems with the lead-free solder Microsoft was using.

yep and that exactly whats happened to my lap top (i assumed that why they invented the stuff) !!

 

[TheGimp]

The lead free solders seem to have a lower malleability. Lead solder can take stress (thermal cycling, etc) a lot better.

 

[Wavebourn]

The lead free solders seem to have a lower malleability. Lead solder can take stress (thermal cycling, etc) a lot better.

That's why military equipment is exempt from ROHS regulations.
But recent failure of Russian space ship going on Mars proves that "new technologies" find their way to the outer space anyway...

I am happy I can buy extremely cheap tubes that were used in military and airspace programs when their reliability was properly valued.

 

[TheGimp]

I just wonder how long it will be until lead based solder is no longer available? Bound to happen some day. Is it banned in CA yet? Y'all will be first.

 

[Wavebourn]

It is still for sale in Frys... Unlike Cuban cigars.

 

[TUBESMAN]

I'm sure in time the Lead free solder issue will be sorted out. I wonder though, are current production tubes ROHS compliant? What solders the pins? Are they exempt? I'm sure Germans buy tube amps at their local dealer and I presume they meet EU regulations.

 

[j.michael droke]

I just wonder how long it will be until lead based solder is no longer available? Bound to happen some day. Is it banned in CA yet? Y'all will be first.

Hi there: What is the material used to ballance vehicle wheels/tires? I frequently see it laying along the streets. Some audio equipment I have is still operating from 1960/70's, so IMO lead-tin solder is not necessarly unreliable over time. ...regards, Michael

 

[trondareo]

It would be great if we could compile a list of rules to follow to be reasonably CE compliant