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Old 20th October 2011, 09:06 AM   #1
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I'm planning to add a tube preamplifier for my solid state power amp. the supply is +-25V. I designed a preamp circuit but not sure it will works fine. Can any one help me to check the design? many thanks
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Old 20th October 2011, 11:51 AM   #2
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What's the design goal? Easily audible distortion?
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Old 20th October 2011, 12:08 PM   #3
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With the right value for anode resistor the smoothly non-linear second-order distortion created by the valve characteristic could be partly cancelled by clipping caused by grid current. The result would be low THD, at a particular volume level, but awful sound.

Astonishingly, this technique was actually advocated in an IRE Transactions paper in 1955 by J Z Knapp "Low Distortion Operation of Some Miniature Dual Triodes". I guess back then they didn't know how awful high-order distortion sounds.
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Old 20th October 2011, 12:08 PM   #4
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Your 12AU7 won't like your low voltage.

Steve Bench plotted some interesting curves for a 6SN7 at low volts. Also the 12SX7 might be worth looking at.
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Old 20th October 2011, 12:23 PM   #5
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I searched the web found a 12V 12AU7 headphone design so I think the 50V won't be a problem
DIY 12AU7 (ECC82) Tube - IRF612 MOSFET Hybrid Headphone Amplifier
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It also won't like the bias arrangement. Hint: Look at the potential between the grid and cathode - should be a few volts at most. (Need input cap and one more resistor..)

A 6DJ8 would work a lot better here.
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I searched the web found a 12V 12AU7 headphone design so I think the 50V won't be a problem
DIY 12AU7 (ECC82) Tube - IRF612 MOSFET Hybrid Headphone Amplifier
NP-100v12: DIY 12AU7 (ECC82) Tube / IRF510 MOSFET Headphone Amplifier
Nope, and I bet it sounds pretty bad..
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Old 20th October 2011, 12:32 PM   #8
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But I have another design, 6N11 + IRF510, the sound is fairly good. Powered by single 24V.
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Old 20th October 2011, 12:34 PM   #9
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a big mistake. grid shold be tite to VSS, not GND
look at this one
should I add a small positive voltage (vs VSS) to grid?
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It also won't like the bias arrangement. Hint: Look at the potential between the grid and cathode - should be a few volts at most. (Need input cap and one more resistor..)

A 6DJ8 would work a lot better here.
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Old 20th October 2011, 02:25 PM   #10
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I think I should also try with 6N8P(6NS7)
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