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 Originally Posted by CPaul SY, Thevenin's theorem relates to any two nodes in any linear circuit. It does not address pairs of equivalents in a single circuit.
Never said it did. Figure 3. Try to count to two.
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 11th December 2011, 06:59 PM #492 CPaul diyAudio Member   Join Date: Nov 2011 Sorry, I can't follow your logic. Let's take it step by step. Thevenin applies to two nodes and two nodes only. Which pair of nodes do you want to analyze first, p&k, p&gnd, or k&gnd? __________________ "It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." - Thomas Paine
 11th December 2011, 07:43 PM #493 Alfred Centauri   diyAudio Member     Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Metro Atlanta, Georgia OK guys, it's been fun and educational. I've gained some valuable insights from all this. Signing off... AC
SY
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 Originally Posted by CPaul Which pair of nodes do you want to analyze first, p&k, p&gnd, or k&gnd?
They can be done simultaneously, if you wish. Nothing prevents that- this isn't quantum mechanics!
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 11th December 2011, 10:17 PM #495 CPaul diyAudio Member   Join Date: Nov 2011 I do not wish, because I suspect that that would violate Thevenin. Please choose the first node pair to analyze. __________________ "It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." - Thomas Paine
 11th December 2011, 10:22 PM #496 GloBug   Banned   Join Date: Jun 2011 k&gnd!
 11th December 2011, 10:22 PM #497 SY   On Hiatus     Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicagoland Ah, so we've now moved from the "I can't count to two" problem to the "I want to violate the boundary condition" problem. Pick one and stick with it. If you short one output, you have to short the other. That's the "given." If you can't accept the given, then you have no valid critique of my results given the given. __________________ "You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is."
 11th December 2011, 10:36 PM #498 CPaul diyAudio Member   Join Date: Nov 2011 No, SY, that is an incorrect analysis. I understand your "given" to be that I must always keep the Cathodyne balanced, not that I must short the p & k to ground. Or has the "given" changed? If I acceed to your demand that I satisfy what I understand to be your "given", an always balanced Cathodyne, then surely it is a small effort on your part to agree to adhere to Thevenin. You can't sacrifice Thevenin on the altar of your boundary condition. Short the p to the k only. Satisfy your boundary condition, and Thevenin at the same time, and be done with it. Arrive at Vogels result. __________________ "It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." - Thomas Paine
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 Originally Posted by SY Never said it did. Figure 3. Try to count to two.
If figure number is 3 we should count to 3, no?
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SY
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 Originally Posted by CPaul I understand your "given" to be that I must always keep the Cathodyne balanced... ...your "given", an always balanced Cathodyne
Apparently you don't.
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