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Old 24th January 2011, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default tony builds a 7N7 preamp

hi,

just like to share my new tube pre-amp, it is based on 7N7 tube, it 's a medium-mu dual triode, the Loctal equivalent of the 6SN7:

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preparation of the chassis required drilling and nibbling the chassis to punch out holes:

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hole saws and drill bits were used utilising a small bench drill i got before christmass, nibbling tool for rectangular cut-out proved to be very handy:

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these are traffos i built, i used the one with 6.3 volt heater winding only. the endbell were replaced with those supplied by edrel, thanks edrel...

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the circuit is a classic common cathode input, cathode follower output stages. the twist here is that led's were used to bias the cathode follower.
operating point was chosen at about 150 volts and 5mA for both stages. this is desireable so that the net ac current draw from the power supply is zero.
the power supply was designed to provide 300volts at 30mA, the transformer i designed for the amp barely heats up in use.... the power supply is a hybrid type, using a 7X6 full wave rectifier and a diode bridge.....apportionment of supply current is as follows; 10 mA for the 300v composite zener diode string as shunt regulators and 10 mA each for both L and R channels.

this is the schematic diagram:

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so how was the sound? i would say that this preamp is quiet and makes good sound driving a Sure T-amp as it is supposed to do......
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Old 25th January 2011, 10:08 AM   #2
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That's really cool! I have buckets of those old loctal tubes and wasn't sure if they would ever see life again. Thank you Tony, I just got motivated to try something new!
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Old 25th January 2011, 11:27 AM   #3
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You show two Cathode LEDs on drawing and three in pics...this lowers your current through 7N7 from 5ma, correct?

I have a similar pre I am experimenting with, except I have the back 6SN7 as a phase splitter for a balanced output. I have a bit of hum tho, haven't played with it much...maybe I will play with it a little more. I should start with a lower B+ (I am running 230V B+, 22K plate Resistor, and two red LEDs on cathode...)
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You show two Cathode LEDs on drawing and three in pics...this lowers your current through 7N7 from 5ma, correct?

I have a similar pre I am experimenting with, except I have the back 6SN7 as a phase splitter for a balanced output. I have a bit of hum tho, haven't played with it much...maybe I will play with it a little more. I should start with a lower B+ (I am running 230V B+, 22K plate Resistor, and two red LEDs on cathode...)

yes, the final amp used 3 led's, smaller ones to get the current to 5ma....

this amp is very clean, no microphonics, no hum....i lifted the heaters to about 95volts, using voltage devider strings since dc coupling was used....
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That's really cool! I have buckets of those old loctal tubes and wasn't sure if they would ever see life again. Thank you Tony, I just got motivated to try something new!
loctal sockets are now available, i got mine from shang zheng, ebay seller.....

i used a loktal rectifier tube as well........
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Old 25th January 2011, 01:04 PM   #6
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very nice preamp tony..
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yes, the final amp used 3 led's, smaller ones to get the current to 5ma....
I thought all RED LEDs were around 1.7V drop regardless of size...
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those red led's i used had 1.5volts drop, what i did was to string them on a breadboard and run 5ma thru them using a 12 volt supply......then i soldered them into a string and fixed them on plastic film using clear epoxy......
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very nice preamp tony..
thanks, the rectifier tube 7X6 costs $1 and the 7N7 costs $8 at rogalski's in Florida......this is a bang for the buck preamp....
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Old 25th January 2011, 11:33 PM   #10
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Nice preamp. Something about the industrial strength look of the locktals is appealing to me. What is the purpose of the 390 ohm resistors? Grid stoppers? Does having the 1M grid leaks connected directly to the grid pin compromise their effectiveness?
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