Need help to calculate R in a CCS!

Green77 · 9th January 2011, 01:53 PM

Hi all!

I'm going to try to build a TubelabSE with 300b tubes.
But i need to change the 10M45 to a DN2540 in the CCS.
How to calculate R16 (330 ohm) to run 10mA with the DN2540??

Schematic

Many Thanks //Daniel

SGregory · 02:18 PM

Daniel,\
due to variation in the manufacture the voltage required for the DN2540 will be somewhere between -1.5 and -3.5V (depletion mode). The stage wants 12mA of current. So lets take a guess at your device and assume for the moment that it needs 2.8V. V=IR so 2.8 = 0.012 * R. R = about 233R.

Install a 330R resistor, carefully measure the voltage drop across it in operation, and then recalculate with the known voltage to get your desired current. You can adjust it by either piggy backing a resistor to the 330R or replaceing it with the correct value.

May I strongly suggest that you cascode two DN2540's. A single isn't much better, if at all, to a 10M45. You could easily deadbug it on the pcboard.

Green77 · 9th January 2011, 04:33 PM

Thanks

I will think about 2 dn2540..

Svein_B · 9th January 2011, 05:06 PM

Gary Pimm has some measurements of the different CCS variants.

CCS performance measurments

(look at the graph at the bottom of page)

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euro21 · 10th January 2011, 09:18 AM

In practice it's 180-190 ohm (cascode DN2540 CCS), at 12mA (depends on the FETs).

Bandersnatch · 10th January 2011, 09:56 AM

hey-Hey!!!,
In my next CCS I will use a 10M45 on top of DN3545N3. The 10M45 has nearly twice the negative bias of the 2540/3545 and so would lower the gate capacitance of the lower FET substantially( a useful thing I think ).
cheers,
Douglas

9th January 2011, 01:53 PM	#1
Green77 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: MJOLBY	Need help to calculate R in a CCS! Hi all! I'm going to try to build a TubelabSE with 300b tubes. But i need to change the 10M45 to a DN2540 in the CCS. How to calculate R16 (330 ohm) to run 10mA with the DN2540?? Schematic Many Thanks //Daniel

9th January 2011, 02:15 PM	#2
SGregory Tubie Noobie diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Southern Tier NY	Daniel,\ due to variation in the manufacture the voltage required for the DN2540 will be somewhere between -1.5 and -3.5V (depletion mode). The stage wants 12mA of current. So lets take a guess at your device and assume for the moment that it needs 2.8V. V=IR so 2.8 = 0.012 * R. R = about 233R. Install a 330R resistor, carefully measure the voltage drop across it in operation, and then recalculate with the known voltage to get your desired current. You can adjust it by either piggy backing a resistor to the 330R or replaceing it with the correct value. May I strongly suggest that you cascode two DN2540's. A single isn't much better, if at all, to a 10M45. You could easily deadbug it on the pcboard. __________________ Living Life Doing the Waltz in 4/4 meter. Last edited by SGregory; 9th January 2011 at 02:18 PM.

10th January 2011, 09:56 AM	#6
Bandersnatch diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI	hey-Hey!!!, In my next CCS I will use a 10M45 on top of DN3545N3. The 10M45 has nearly twice the negative bias of the 2540/3545 and so would lower the gate capacitance of the lower FET substantially( a useful thing I think ). cheers, Douglas __________________ the Tnuctipun will return

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Svein_B diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	Gary Pimm has some measurements of the different CCS variants. CCS performance measurments (look at the graph at the bottom of page) --

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euro21 diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Budapest	In practice it's 180-190 ohm (cascode DN2540 CCS), at 12mA (depends on the FETs).

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