Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Tubes / Valves
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Tubes / Valves All about our sweet vacuum tubes :) Threads about Musical Instrument Amps of all kinds should be in the Instruments & Amps forum

diyAudio Sponsor

Search for a tube at thetubestore.com                            Product reviews and more

Audio tubes for any amplifier: from high end home audio to classic guitar amps.

Quick links by tube type: 12AX7, EL34, 6L6, KT66, 6550, KT88, EL84, 12AU7, 12AT7, 6922, 6H30, 300B, 6V6, 6SN7 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 1st October 2010, 11:07 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
rsumperl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Binghamton, NY
Default 6U10, 6AC10, 6D10, 6AV11

Greetings,
As anyone used these tubes in audio service and if yes, could you share a circuit?
  Reply With Quote
Old 1st October 2010, 11:48 PM   #2
JLH is offline JLH  United States
diyAudio Member
 
JLH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Those tubes contain a mixture of 12AX7 / 12AU7 / 6SN7 triode sections in various different numbers. There is nothing special about them. Any circuit that uses the above triodes can be made with the tubes you listed. What do you want to use them for? Please be more specific on what you want to know.
__________________
Ah, how beautifully the orchestra sounds before a rain! In a dry sunny day there is no way for the instruments to sound this way!
  Reply With Quote
Old 3rd October 2010, 12:39 AM   #3
roline is offline roline  United States
diyAudio Member
 
roline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: East Tennessee
Default 6U10 Compactron Amp

I'm working on a 40-50 watt amp for 6-8 ohm speakers with the 6u10 and 6jm6 compactron tubes. I will build and check stability prior to releasing the design.
The limiting item appears to be output transformers. I found a set of 25watt'rs but from their physical size, I feel they will be performance challenged. I will leave enough room for a set of Hammonds or Edcors on the final amp. The 6U10 is the first gain stage and longtail pair.
The power transformer was $25 and should make 300V DC @200ma , -56V for bais and 6.3V @ 6 Amps for the heaters. It has a couple sets of 6.3 volt windings as spares. It will use input current limiters and diode bridges for power.
Tubes were under $5 each. Output transformers were $25 each.
Short the PCB, resisters sockets and caps, under $110. I have the wood for the base and .080 Alum for the mounting plate.
This amp is no way designed to compete with 6SN7 inputs and 6H6N's for second stage driving KT88's....The objective was "A small simple amp" for under $250.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg compactron amp-layout-1.jpg (215.4 KB, 174 views)

Last edited by roline; 3rd October 2010 at 12:57 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 3rd October 2010, 12:20 PM   #4
diyAudio Member
 
rsumperl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Binghamton, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by roline View Post
I'm working on a 40-50 watt amp for 6-8 ohm speakers with the 6u10 and 6jm6 compactron tubes. I will build and check stability prior to releasing the design.
The limiting item appears to be output transformers. I found a set of 25watt'rs but from their physical size, I feel they will be performance challenged. I will leave enough room for a set of Hammonds or Edcors on the final amp. The 6U10 is the first gain stage and longtail pair.
The power transformer was $25 and should make 300V DC @200ma , -56V for bais and 6.3V @ 6 Amps for the heaters. It has a couple sets of 6.3 volt windings as spares. It will use input current limiters and diode bridges for power.
Tubes were under $5 each. Output transformers were $25 each.
Short the PCB, resisters sockets and caps, under $110. I have the wood for the base and .080 Alum for the mounting plate.
This amp is no way designed to compete with 6SN7 inputs and 6H6N's for second stage driving KT88's....The objective was "A small simple amp" for under $250.
Good morning,
I would be interested in the circuit built around the 6U10. I have my P-P's set, now looking to build a decent driver.

Thanks, Ray
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th February 2012, 04:07 AM   #5
rauze is offline rauze  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Default Soooooo . . . .

what happened? Is the circuit successful (and avilable)? How about a little bit more about the relationship between the 6av11 and 12au7 or 12at7?

Thanks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th February 2012, 04:37 AM   #6
TheGimp is offline TheGimp  United States
diyAudio Member
 
TheGimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Johnson City, TN
Not meaning to be overly critical, but your OPTs look a wee tad small for more than 10W with reasonable lf response.

They are meant for guitar use where the -f3 is around 80-100Hz. They are only rated foe 25 W at that.

If you want anything approaching audiophile quality you will need much better opts.

I think this would be a better choice:

http://www.edcorusa.com/p/444/cxpp50-8-6_6k

On the other hand, I love the PT.

Last edited by TheGimp; 11th February 2012 at 04:49 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11th February 2012, 01:42 PM   #7
roline is offline roline  United States
diyAudio Member
 
roline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: East Tennessee
I used the little iron 8k-8 25watt with the 18 watt tubes to make the timing for the original stocking stuffer (hammonds were late) and upgraded them to 35 watt Z11 iron as a stocking stuffer this yr. It nests on top of a headphone-amp that was also his stocking stuffer. We also swapped out the 6U10's with 6AC10's which won the tube rolling contest over the other all the other triple triodes.
Built another one with 6GV5 18watt tubes with the 6.6k hammond iron 40 watt when they arrived and started the third with the 33 watt output tubes and 60 watt hammond iron. The larger one with the 6LB6 tubes and I like 6.6k iron for a little more class A over power output. I do not use UL with this design and it sounds great!. I has a low end that allows you to feel the music breath.
I started to mount to the top plate after bread-boarding it and trying different power iron combinations. I decided to use a damper diode for slow B+ start from a diode power supply to prevent voltage overshoot in the B+ to the caps. Worked great and I will also use it on the KEG-EAR ST70 clone project. 6CG3 damper tube as a slow start switch.
I wanted to mount, nest the amp on a phono-preamp so I started the PCB's for the preamp and it will also be 16" by 13". Looking for a 12" wide board of south american cherry, walnut to make the chassis from. I have one cut from Oak but may use it on the KEG-EAR version. I wanted the grain to match between the 2 chassis when stacked.
The RIAA PCB is almost stuffed, just need to measure the caps for the RIAA poles and match the resistors and then start etching the other 4 PCB's.
All PCB's are done by toner transfer etch in the sink. It is time consuming, it took 2 days for me to get the RIAA PCB as far as I did in the pic below. I have substituted PIO .47u for the WIMA's and still need to measure and match the resistors of the poles.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg P9210129.jpg (877.6 KB, 50 views)
File Type: jpg Compactron upgrade.jpg (160.9 KB, 44 views)
File Type: jpg compactron3-3.jpg (745.5 KB, 43 views)
File Type: jpg mack-up3.jpg (600.2 KB, 43 views)
File Type: jpg ha2b.jpg (82.4 KB, 18 views)
File Type: jpg Compactron PCB J2.jpg (632.4 KB, 15 views)
File Type: jpg side_view2.jpg (252.7 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg comp3b.jpg (112.2 KB, 14 views)
__________________
SO many tubes, SO little time!!!

Last edited by roline; 11th February 2012 at 01:58 PM.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
6AC10 tubes rsumperl Tubes / Valves 0 26th December 2009 02:51 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:54 AM.

Page generated in 0.10185 seconds (77.99% PHP - 22.01% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio