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Old 2nd October 2010, 12:45 AM   #11
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James is in Taipei, no? Do they manufacture in China?

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Hmmm... that's a tricky political question.
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Old 2nd October 2010, 01:39 AM   #12
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Hmmm... that's a tricky political question.
Depends which side of the strait you're on when you ask.

Seriously, Taiwan is worlds apart from mainland China. Taiwan was where China is now, about 40-50 years ago (culturally, politically and economically). They grew up, but China is just a monstrous prepubescent youngster at this stage.

but I digress...

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Old 2nd October 2010, 02:35 AM   #13
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Chances are that one of two things happened: the potting material parts A and B were not thoroughly mixed or one of the parts was actually left out. This DOES happen, especially if a feed tube is clogged.
Going slightly off topic - I have several plastic drawer organizers (I presume they all came on a slow boat from China), some bought from Office Depot/Staples that were fine. Others I bought at "discount" from Big Lots and/or Aldi Foods, and they smelled and outgassed for months, and they still do a little bit. I can imagine this caused by such a mix problem or bad ingredient in manufacturing, not bad enough to cause mechanically bad product, but bad enough to outgas.

Your description of the likely problem also reminds me of the bad capacitor problem, traced to a stolen but incomplete electrolyte formula used in Chinese electrolytics:
Tale of bad capacitors taking a company down
It makes me wonder about China's rather fast rampup to a huge manufacturing economy, and the perhaps inevitable shortcuts and semidefective products due to a lack of engineers and managers experienced with what manufacturing problems could come up and how to correct and prevent them.

On the other hand, I can see such problems being reduced substantially over time - I'm old enough to remember when "Made in Japan" on consumer products meant junk.
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i'm trying to do just the opposite of generalizing. i wanna specify which brands have non-odorous models so that i can buy them. the only reason i keep saying 'chinese amp' instead of naming the maker is because, as i said, they offered me a partial refund after many months so i want to keep them anonymous out of gratitude.

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I was making my interconnects and opted not to get the -450 centigrade cryo-treated bullcrap. When I got the parts half of the terminations had the "cryo-treated" sticker on them. I guess they ran out of non-frozen ones?

Anyway the ones that had be frozen smelled like an old train museum. Any Brits on this forum that have a single drop of Britannic blood in their veins will have visited the National Railway Museum at least once and know exactly the odour to which I am referring. That ancient axle grease smell.

I still can't figure out what part of the freezing process would smell that way. Nitrogen is odorless... so liquid nitrogen is odorless. Likewise for liquid helium...
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Oh and for chinese integrated tube amps I can say don't stink:

Jolida
Antique Sound Labs
Yaqin
Xindak

EDIT: At least, in the literal sense they don't stink......
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That's true. Of my 2 Chinese tube amps, the Xindak is sans odor.
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My newly arrived USA-made Edcor transformers smell strongly of varnish for a while - that's the smell of a well-made transformer that won't rust out.
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My newly arrived USA-made Edcor transformers smell strongly of varnish for a while - that's the smell of a well-made transformer that won't rust out.
That MUST be the reason these particular Chinese amps smell. Maybe they will never rust.

I have a Grant Fidelity amplifier (mfg'd in China) that smells like coffee and BBQ from Planet 10's estate. I'm not ready to blame that on any nation except Canada.

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If it's from Planet 10 land, I'll bet that's not all it smells like. Blame that on B.C.!
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