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Old 19th June 2010, 12:33 PM   #1
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Default Clarion 6L6G Oscillator Amp.

I came across this amp when my school was clearing a science lab. The badge says Clarion Sound System-Transformer Corporation of America. Bottom plate has schematic and adds that this is a Oscillator Amplifier. It uses two 6L6G tubes and a single 5U4Q other tubes are: 6SC7 & 6J7. The power transformer is huge as are the other two.Taps are : G-0-2-4-8-16 Oddly, I don't know where the inputs are! As you may have gathered, I know very little about these things other than how to operate my Dynaco St-70. If anyone has any information on this amp I would greatly appreciate any info. Photos to follow.

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Old 19th June 2010, 07:57 PM   #2
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Default Pics Re:6L6g Oscillator Amplifier

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Old 19th June 2010, 09:37 PM   #3
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Being an "Oscillator-Amplifier", I would think it has no inputs. Oscillator-Amplifier implies an (audio) signal source (the oscillator) driving a power amplifier. I see no frequency control, so it may be fixed frequency.

I have solid state lab gear of similar function. I use one to power the motor in my Garrard 301 turntable. Tweaking the frequency of the motor's power supply (the Oscillator-Amplifier) allows the speed to be set as one wishes. A lot of juke boxes use an oscillator-amplifier to change speed from 33.3 to 45 RPM without having to implement a bunch of additional mechanical devices in an already mechanically complex system.

My 301 runs fast if I power it from the standard 60 cycle wall outlet inasmuch as I've removed the magnetic shunt speed control of the original design. I did so to lower the rumble.

In the design of the 301 speed adjustment is achieved by running the platter a bit faster 33.3 RPM then slowing it down with an adjustable magnetic brake. Much like going 25 MPH in your car by depressing the gas pedal to a point where the car goes 30 MPH, then using your other foot to press on the brakes to slow the car back down to 25 MPH. A lot of extra vibration (rumble) is produced.

Sorry, most of the above is topic-drift, but it may give you some ideas on an application for it.

I'm sure you could do some simple modifications to it to use it as a conventional power amp. You would just need to disable the oscillator portion (which may be as simple as pulling a tube) and then figure out where to inject the audio input signal. The top cap on that one tube (6J7 ? I can't see the pics as I type this) would be a good place to start (as an input point).
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Old 19th June 2010, 10:32 PM   #4
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Default Re:Clarion Oscillator Amp.

Dr. Rick.
Thanks for your reply. I was hoping to use this perhaps as a mono sub amp
for high efficiency drivers. I will more than likely surrender it to more capable hands. It seems that a variac would accomplish the same regarding the control of motors etc.. The only application I found on the net was something called a Master Oscillator Power Amplifier (MOPA) that is used to have some effect on Lasers. Anyway, Thanks again.

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Being an "Oscillator-Amplifier", I would think it has no inputs. Oscillator-Amplifier implies an (audio) signal source (the oscillator) driving a power amplifier. I see no frequency control, so it may be fixed frequency.

I have solid state lab gear of similar function. I use one to power the motor in my Garrard 301 turntable. Tweaking the frequency of the motor's power supply (the Oscillator-Amplifier) allows the speed to be set as one wishes. A lot of juke boxes use an oscillator-amplifier to change speed from 33.3 to 45 RPM without having to implement a bunch of additional mechanical devices in an already mechanically complex system.

My 301 runs fast if I power it from the standard 60 cycle wall outlet inasmuch as I've removed the magnetic shunt speed control of the original design. I did so to lower the rumble.

In the design of the 301 speed adjustment is achieved by running the platter a bit faster 33.3 RPM then slowing it down with an adjustable magnetic brake. Much like going 25 MPH in your car by depressing the gas pedal to a point where the car goes 30 MPH, then using your other foot to press on the brakes to slow the car back down to 25 MPH. A lot of extra vibration (rumble) is produced.

Sorry, most of the above is topic-drift, but it may give you some ideas on an application for it.

I'm sure you could do some simple modifications to it to use it as a conventional power amp. You would just need to disable the oscillator portion (which may be as simple as pulling a tube) and then figure out where to inject the audio input signal. The top cap on that one tube (6J7 ? I can't see the pics as I type this) would be a good place to start (as an input point).
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Old 19th June 2010, 11:15 PM   #5
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Well if it is an oscillator and power amp then just take the oscillator part out and message the power amp for your application. Looks like it has some decent iron.
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Old 19th June 2010, 11:50 PM   #6
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I imagine that given the 1/4 inch of dust I removed from the top the amp that this had not been used in decades. That would suggest that the Caps and other parts may need replacing. I still have a 60hz hum in a Dynaco Pas 2 that I can't figure out. Restoring this beast is beyond my depth. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
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Old 20th June 2010, 12:52 AM   #7
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You said that the bottom plate had a schematic. Why don't you post a picture of the schematic, and we can figure out what it is for sure. My guess is that it is what DrRick said, but it might make a good bass amp.
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Old 20th June 2010, 01:27 AM   #8
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Here is a shot of the bottom and the schematic.
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Old 20th June 2010, 01:32 AM   #9
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Just noticed that is there is a caution that states that the amp should be used from 50-60 cycles only. This would suggest very limited audio use or am I mixing up my terminology. Maybe a
subwoofer at best?
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Old 20th June 2010, 01:44 AM   #10
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50 or 60 cycles is the frequency of the AC coming out of the wall, so it's fine running anywhere the line freq. is 50 or 60 Hz. which is everywhere. From the schematic it looks like a normal PP amp after C3. If you where to disconnect C2 and L2 and rearrange a few parts on VT1 you'd have an audio amplifier.

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