otions for drawing tube schematics on Mac..?

paba · 25th May 2010, 05:00 PM

Just googled for a while and came out with very slim pickings...free or shareware.

even if you just want to draw...without simulation... can't be we are 2010 and mac osx is not just for photo, music and desk top publishing work anymore...

help
/paba

Arnulf · 25th May 2010, 06:08 PM

You haven't Googled enough

Cadsoft Eagle has Mac version in addition to Windows and Linux and allows unlimited schematic size.

Remember to download tubes library as well !

paba · 25th May 2010, 06:38 PM

I had spotted the Eagle but did not see the extra tube library... I'll give it a try tonight and report back.

thanks
/paba

Arnulf · 25th May 2010, 07:06 PM

I use it (although not on Mac platform), it works like a charm.

Rod Coleman · 25th May 2010, 07:39 PM

Visit Wine HQ

WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and Mac OS X

Allows Windows applications to run on Linux, BSD and OSX platforms.

Electronics CAD seems to be very fortunate with Wine, and the best programmes work perfectly with it. I use Kubuntu (Linux) with Wine to run LTSPICE for tube circuit simulation and schematics, Easy-PC for schematic PCB, and the free version of DIPTRACE for PCBs too. LTSPICE & DIPTRACE are even designed specially to work with WINE.

PSUDii works perfectly too.

I find Windows (even W7) to be loathsome, so it's just as well these things are so well worked out. And Kubuntu/Ubuntu can be installed dual-boot on Mac hardware too, so you can join in with the open source pleasures.

WINE is not some crappy emulator. Everything runs full speed.

Loren42 · 25th May 2010, 07:50 PM

Yes, Eagle is probably the best choice.

You can find Eagle in your dictionary. Just look up 'World's Worst User Interface' and the download links will be right there.

planet10 · 25th May 2010, 10:18 PM

There are lots of really good absoultly 1st class professional CAD software for the Mac (i use VectorWorks), and some decent less expensive packages. This is the site that covers the subject Architosh - Welcome to the #1 Mac CAD / 3D / AEC Website

Freeware & shareware is a bit scarcer. Here is one CADintosh

The best implementation of WINE on the Mac is http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/, but i can't see why anyone would put up with the lousy Window's UI if they didn't have to.

For instance, Vectorworks is cross platform with identical features, but the Windows version, with the native UI, is not nearly as elegant as the Mac version (a big reason 70% of the local architects are on Macs)

dave

Loren42 · 25th May 2010, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planet10

There are lots of really good absoultly 1st class professional CAD software for the Mac (i use VectorWorks), and some decent less expensive packages. This is the site that covers the subject Architosh - Welcome to the #1 Mac CAD / 3D / AEC Website

Freeware & shareware is a bit scarcer. Here is one CADintosh

The best implementation of WINE on the Mac is Windows Applications Seamlessly Integrated on Mac OS X - Mac Windows - CodeWeavers, but i can't see why anyone would put up with the lousy Window's UI if they didn't have to.

For instance, Vectorworks is cross platform with identical features, but the Windows version, with the native UI, is not nearly as elegant as the Mac version (a big reason 70% of the local architects are on Macs)

dave

I also use Vectorworks. While I would not consider it a schem capture program, there is nothing to prevent you form doing that. It just doesn't have the normal snap-to line function you normally get with a schematic capture package.

For whatever reason, every schematic capture package and layout program I have tried is a user interface disaster, regardless of platform.

Allen Wright · 25th May 2010, 11:06 PM

I use old ClarisCAD on a OS9 machine. Does everything I want, and is far easier to use than VectorWorks, which I also have. Quick & slick.

I have built up my own tube & traffo drawings to use in ClarisCAD.

Regards, Allen

planet10 · 25th May 2010, 11:11 PM

I agree on the schematic capture UIs...

VW has a bunch of features that make drawing schema a pleasure... rubberband lines can be a blessing and a curse, i'm happy to live without them. VW comes with a tube symbol library, but over time i drew my own,

Attached are some examples of drawings i've done

dave.

25th May 2010, 06:08 PM	#2
Arnulf diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	You haven't Googled enough Cadsoft Eagle has Mac version in addition to Windows and Linux and allows unlimited schematic size. Remember to download tubes library as well ! __________________ mod verb, transitive /mod/ to state that one is utterly clueless about the operation of device to be "modded" and into "fixing" things that are not broken; "My new amplifier sounds great so I want to mod it."

25th May 2010, 07:06 PM	#4
Arnulf diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	I use it (although not on Mac platform), it works like a charm. __________________ mod verb, transitive /mod/ to state that one is utterly clueless about the operation of device to be "modded" and into "fixing" things that are not broken; "My new amplifier sounds great so I want to mod it."

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planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 4	There are lots of really good absoultly 1st class professional CAD software for the Mac (i use VectorWorks), and some decent less expensive packages. This is the site that covers the subject Architosh - Welcome to the #1 Mac CAD / 3D / AEC Website Freeware & shareware is a bit scarcer. Here is one CADintosh The best implementation of WINE on the Mac is http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/, but i can't see why anyone would put up with the lousy Window's UI if they didn't have to. For instance, Vectorworks is cross platform with identical features, but the Windows version, with the native UI, is not nearly as elegant as the Mac version (a big reason 70% of the local architects are on Macs) dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

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25th May 2010, 05:00 PM	#1
paba diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Montreal	otions for drawing tube schematics on Mac..? Just googled for a while and came out with very slim pickings...free or shareware. even if you just want to draw...without simulation... can't be we are 2010 and mac osx is not just for photo, music and desk top publishing work anymore... help /paba

25th May 2010, 06:38 PM	#3
paba diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Montreal	I had spotted the Eagle but did not see the extra tube library... I'll give it a try tonight and report back. thanks /paba

25th May 2010, 07:39 PM	#5
Rod Coleman работник diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warwickshire UK	Visit Wine HQ WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and Mac OS X Allows Windows applications to run on Linux, BSD and OSX platforms. Electronics CAD seems to be very fortunate with Wine, and the best programmes work perfectly with it. I use Kubuntu (Linux) with Wine to run LTSPICE for tube circuit simulation and schematics, Easy-PC for schematic PCB, and the free version of DIPTRACE for PCBs too. LTSPICE & DIPTRACE are even designed specially to work with WINE. PSUDii works perfectly too. I find Windows (even W7) to be loathsome, so it's just as well these things are so well worked out. And Kubuntu/Ubuntu can be installed dual-boot on Mac hardware too, so you can join in with the open source pleasures. WINE is not some crappy emulator. Everything runs full speed.

25th May 2010, 07:50 PM	#6
Loren42 diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "Space Coast" Florida, USA	Yes, Eagle is probably the best choice. You can find Eagle in your dictionary. Just look up 'World's Worst User Interface' and the download links will be right there.

25th May 2010, 11:06 PM	#9
Allen Wright R.I.P. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Schaffhausen Switzerland	I use old ClarisCAD on a OS9 machine. Does everything I want, and is far easier to use than VectorWorks, which I also have. Quick & slick. I have built up my own tube & traffo drawings to use in ClarisCAD. Regards, Allen

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