Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Tubes / Valves
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Tubes / Valves All about our sweet vacuum tubes :) Threads about Musical Instrument Amps of all kinds should be in the Instruments & Amps forum

diyAudio Sponsor

Search for a tube at thetubestore.com                            Product reviews and more

Audio tubes for any amplifier: from high end home audio to classic guitar amps.

Quick links by tube type: 12AX7, EL34, 6L6, KT66, 6550, KT88, EL84, 12AU7, 12AT7, 6922, 6H30, 300B, 6V6, 6SN7 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 26th March 2010, 06:49 PM   #1
bst is offline bst  United States
diyAudio Member
 
bst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Default Thinking out loud -- VT-33 headphone amp?

I discovered a half-dozen new VT-33 pentodes while digging through yet another carton of my uncatalogued tubes. The datasheet looks interesting – a directly-heated pentode with a very small heater current, and a gain of about 70. Max plate voltage is only 180VDC, so the tube should operate nicely at 150 volts or less. The triode-strapped curves look very nice.

This got me thinking about a simple, low-gain headphone amp. My CD player puts out a maximum of 2.2 volts, with only a 300-ohm output impedance. My headphones are 250-ohm Beyerdynamics, and should need only 6 or 8 volts to drive them to uncomfortable levels.

A simple rectified and well-filtered isolation transformer could provide the 150-volt B+, and DHT heater problems could be avoided by using a Gates Cyclon 2V, 5Ah battery, with a charging circuit that switched on when the main power was switched off.

Edcor makes some very inexpensive line matching transformers (20-20K for less than $13) if one was needed for the input. Since the output power would be in the range of 200mW, an OPT would be inexpensive as well.

I'm wondering if its worth crunching some numbers to use this tube in a headphone amp. Possibilities would be single-tube triode-mode, single pentode, pentode-wired tube driving triode-wired tube, and others.

Does anyone have any experience using old DH pentodes in low-power amps? I'd like to pursue this, but not if I'm going to run into problems with microphonics or other noise, or some other pitfall I'm not experienced / knowledgeable enough to recognize.

Thanks in advance for your (no pun intended) feedback...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 33Curves.JPG (204.4 KB, 76 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 28th March 2010, 07:53 AM   #2
Gordy is offline Gordy  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
I take it that the solid lines on the graph are the Triode mode curves, which look OK. At first glance looks like a gain of about 4.25 and an Rp of around 2800 Ohms?

So a 1:2 step-up transformer at the input and a 4:1 step down on the output will net you about 30 mW into 250 Ohms for a 2.2V input. Whether 30 mW is enough depends upon the sensitivity of the 'phones and how loud you like it. On most new high-sensitivity 'phones 30 mW is too loud, but on your 'phones I have no idea.

The loading on the tube would be 4800 Ohms via the transformer, which might be a bit heavy as it is only 1.7 times the Rp of the tube.

Last edited by Gordy; 28th March 2010 at 08:11 AM.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OB project: thinking out loud pjanda1 Wild Burro Audio 11 21st January 2010 04:13 PM
Upgrading my Audio Research VT 130 SE Tube amp Serratoga Tubes / Valves 16 20th March 2008 01:15 PM
DIY headphone amp not loud enough theAnonymous1 Headphone Systems 96 1st April 2007 06:01 PM
BridgeClone Questions (thinking out loud) PaulHilgeman Chip Amps 15 30th July 2003 09:59 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:29 AM.

Page generated in 0.06560 seconds (71.47% PHP - 28.53% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio