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Old 1st June 2011, 07:27 PM   #1031
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Hi Rod,

I don't understand why the first cap should have such a low value. Is this to protect the rectifier tube?

With the PT I have, a choke input would drop the B+ voltage too far. I was assuming 40uF / choke / 40 / choke / 40 plus various bypass caps. How would I integrate a 0.47uF into that? Does the ground lug of the small-value cap still function as the star ground for high-current stuff?
Hi, The reason for choosing choke-input is that the rectifier conducts for a longer part of the mains waveform.

This is kinder to the rectifiers, regulates better, and reduces electromagnetic emissions.

It is relative though, so if you need to have cap-input, just use a 40uF in place of the 0.47uF.
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You can t"Tune" the output voltage of a CLC filter by adjusting the value of the first cap.

The lower the value of the first cap, the higher the output voltage and the more efficient the system becomes as the inductor actually stores energy temporarly and returns it to the system.
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Old 1st June 2011, 09:39 PM   #1033
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You can t"Tune" the output voltage of a CLC filter by adjusting the value of the first cap.

The lower the value of the first cap, the higher the output voltage and the more efficient the system becomes as the inductor actually stores energy temporarly and returns it to the system.
I thought the lower the value of the first cap, the lower the output voltage since you are going towards choke input which is near 1:1 rather than 1:1.4 with cap input. Am I not seeing something here?

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Old 1st June 2011, 09:42 PM   #1034
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I thought the lower the value of the first cap, the lower the output voltage....
it goes without saying.....
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You can t"Tune" the output voltage of a CLC filter by adjusting the value of the first cap.

The lower the value of the first cap, the higher the output voltage and the more efficient the system becomes as the inductor actually stores energy temporarly and returns it to the system.
I think they were discussing choke input filters with a small input capacitor to tweak the output voltage. In any event the inductor is storing energy in its magnetic field whenever load current flows. From direct experience this works and it is possible to adjust the output voltage over a range of about 0.9 to 1.4 times the rms value (not that I would over that range) depending on the capacitor used - but only with a supply intended to operate as a choke input. Note the above comments are predicated on the fact that the load current is above the inductor's critical current for regulation if not it behaves like a standard CLC filter.

Some old timers actually considered it to be bad form to use an input cap to trim the output voltage on a choke input filter.
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Old 4th June 2011, 05:38 AM   #1036
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Hello, i have a pair of tfk re 034 (and a pair of equivalent Philips A 425) that would like to use in a linestage like this. any suggestion on operating point ? thanks!
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Old 4th June 2011, 10:20 AM   #1037
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I'm happy, arrived today Yamamoto teflon UX sockets for 26, socket for AZ1 & tube Siemens AZ1 NOS
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I want to use my 6.3 output but I need to reduce it to 4VAC for AZ1, how can calculate the resistor value because Ducan PSUD2 can't have AZ1 mixed with diodes as hybrid rectifier?
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The AZ1 has a 4 V filament rated at 1.1 A
6.3 - 4 = 2.3 Vdrop
R = V/I thus R = 2.3/1.1 then R = 2.09 Ohm
The resistor should dissipate P = I2 x R thus 1.21 x 2.09 then P = 2.53 W
I would use 2-2.2 Ohm/10 W minimum, or, better, split the resistor and use 2 x 1-1.1 Ohm/5 W, one resistor on each cathode.

Quite easy

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