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bereanbill 16th June 2009 12:05 AM

Speaker sounds blown...but isn't
 
I recently aquired a Danelectro DM-10 guitar amp whose speaker had a dropped voice coil. I replaced it with a known good speaker and it still had that "rattle" that is indicative of a voice coil rubbing. I tried 3 different speakers, incuding a new Jensen with the same result. All of these speakers sound fine in other amps...any ideas?:confused:

Robert McLean 16th June 2009 12:14 AM

The problem may be the speaker cabinet. The baffle, or the sides, or anything inside may be cracked or loose and rattling around. Was the whole enclosure dropped or just the speaker driver ? ( I am not sure what you mean by the voice coil dropped )

Also, before concluding that the dropped speaker is OK you may want to do the reverse substitution, and try the dropped speaker into one of the other known good amps. Maybe the speaker and the cabinet are both damaged.

bereanbill 16th June 2009 12:29 AM

To Robert
 
Thanks for the reply. A dropped voice coil just means it has become malformed and is rubbing the gap. All three speakers have been in other amps with no rattle . It has not been physically dropped. The enclosure is solid...I wondered if the grille clothe may be flapping...I've heard of such a phenomena...but it appears to be drum-tight!!!:bawling:

Cal Weldon 16th June 2009 12:40 AM

Try pushing, squeezing or weighting the cabinet to see if you can change the buzz or rattle while playing music. That will help indicate where the problem lies. If there is no change you may have a problem with the amp?

kevinkr 16th June 2009 01:34 AM

How about connecting an oscilloscope to the output of the amplifier and seeing if it is working ok? I bet it isn't based on steps previously performed. If you don't have a scope I would find someone who does.

bereanbill 16th June 2009 01:49 AM

No scope...keep in mind I am a weekend tinker... I did mod the circut a bit...just added a bypass cap on the I valve and the 6V6..could this have an impact?

kevinkr 16th June 2009 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bereanbill
No scope...keep in mind I am a weekend tinker... I did mod the circut a bit...just added a bypass cap on the I valve and the 6V6..could this have an impact?
Serious week-end tinkerers should have a scope, older Tek models aren't that expensive.
I would suggest you remove your mods and check the result.

Try to fix an amp without a scope is like trying to read in the dark...

kheper 16th June 2009 05:45 AM

Swap the output tubes for known good ones. I had a Fender bass amp (Bassman?) which made rattling/jangly sounds. It was one of the output tubes. I probably overloaded the input with alot of high gain effects, damaging the tube internally.

Frank Berry 16th June 2009 08:32 AM

Remove the modifications one by one.
That will help you determine which mod is causing problems.

Enzo 16th June 2009 10:02 AM

Tap on your tubes to see if any are microphonic. Wiggle the tubes in their sockets to see if any pins have intermittent contact. Conect the output to some other speaker cab so there is no speaker vibration hitting the amp chassis. ANy difference?

And unless you have a rubber mallet, ball up your fist and whack the top of hte amp hard. If the amp reacts with some sort of sound, there is a loose connection inside somewhere.


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