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audiodesign 4th November 2008 09:05 PM

Hi-end 845 with only two stage
 
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yesterday evening I have started some measurement about 6HV5A used like 845 driver.

The schematic was very simple: inductance on anode, Rk = 100ohm, Ck = 470uF, Rg = 75Kohm and output capacitor 2.2uF on 33 or 100Kohm load.

With medium voltage operation (about 600V) these tubes give low sperformances because distortion is high 1.1% at 25Vrms.

The good result are obtain using 980V and 100ohm on catode to keep the power nead the 30w (35w is the maximun allowed), bias about 30mA.

With these value I have got the good 1% at 120Vrms on 33Kohm load.

The freq. response is limited to 50Hz(-3db) with 20H but it will be 10Hz(-3db) using 100H 50mA Sowter 8982.

The voltage amplification is 120/0.7=155x.

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audiodesign 4th November 2008 09:06 PM

Finally the first test result using 6HV5A to drive 845

6HV5A loaded by 20H (Rdc=70ohm) and Rk=100ohm Ck=220uF
950V 28mA

845 loades by Tango X-10S 10K/8ohm Vg=150v Rg=22Kohm
950V 100mA

10Vrms on 8ohm with 2% thd

Interstage 2.2uF // 0.33uF Audyn-Cap Plus

Very good sound

Very good voltage gain

Power can be increased using 1100V instead of 950v

Soon next test and photos

audiodesign 4th November 2008 09:07 PM

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Clio measurement

10Vrms on 8ohm

audiodesign 4th November 2008 09:38 PM

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The 20H inductance is only for this first test.

I am thinking to change this with LL1668/25mA

See actual frequency response

audiodesign 4th November 2008 09:40 PM

the LL1668/25mA
have 100H so about 5Hz (3-db)


Andrea Ciuffoli
www.audiodesignguide.com

audiodesign 4th November 2008 10:01 PM

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test environment

Soon measurement with Lundahl AM output trasf. series

N1ESE 5th November 2008 02:41 AM

Good work so far, watching the development of this.

audiodesign 5th November 2008 08:24 AM

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This is the first schematic

Gluca 5th November 2008 08:35 AM

Andrea

did you try, or will you try, a grid choke for the 845? Things get usually better with them

Ciao
Gianluca

Rob11966 5th November 2008 08:39 AM

Hi Andrea,

I am right now in the process of building your 'New 845' with the EL34/845 combo.

This one looks a lot simpler. How does it compare? Can it be driven direct from a CD player

I am just about to finalise the power transformer order. Should I hold off? I would love to see a schematic of your power supply.

Cheers,

Rob


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