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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: PA
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Have a look at this...
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bi...IER_TUBE_.html Any possible audio uses?
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rural Nevada
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Audio uses - not much. An earlier version of this tube (the RCA 931A) was used as a white noise generator in WW2 counter-measures transmitters. It is mainly used where a very faint light signal needs to be detected.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Adelaide South Oz
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Other variants of this tube also used to be used to "read" the audio track off film in very early film projectors.
I use a $5000 version as the heart of a laser receiver to look at laser reflections from the sea bottom in a Laser Airborne Depth Sounder survey system. I put down 5 Megawatt, 5 nanosecond wide laser pulses (frequency doubled Nd:YAG laser) and can see bottom reflections from up to 70 metres deep in clear water. One of the boffins here did some calcs and determined that we put out so many 10's of millions of photons in each laser pulse and we need to get 10 of them back for the photomultiplier tube to generate enough signal for us to determine how deep the bottom was. Photomultiplier tubes are still the most sensitive light sensors known to science. Cheers, Ian |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: VA
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They were also used in early computer card readers to read the holes in the card. They were also used in readers that would read those forms you'd fill in the little ovals with pencil marks for the answers...
Dave |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
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Variants are also used in some scientific equipment - pulsed flame photometric detectors and that sort of stuff.
Last one I bought was €700 or thereabouts. Fran |
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Look at the Hamamatsu website -- fascinating stuff -- i bought a bunch of PMT's and unloaded them just a year ago -- you could buy 931's for a few dollars, and sometimes the more exotic devices were almost given away.
got muons? |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dallas (but I am not a Texan!)
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Light-activated tube theremin, perhaps? Pete |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Near London. UK
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Photomultiplier tubes are much posher than you might think. Broadcasters used to use them in telecines (film to video) because they provide extremely low noise amplification and high bandwidth. Physicists use them for all sorts of stuff, attempting to detect neutrinos springs to mind (you find a deep mine shaft, fill it with water, and hope to catch the scintillation as a zillions of neutrinos pass through).
You have to be very careful with PMTs. Expose them to light with power applied and they self-destruct. They have enormous gain - 10,000 or more is typical depending on dynode voltage and number of dynodes. Oh, and they're expensive. I replaced a blue telecine tube costing £1500 in 1988.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Also used in combination with scintillation crystals to detect radiation. A PET scanner has a ring of scinillation crystals around the bore of the machines, each with its own photomultiplier. They can detect a single photon of incoming gamma rays.
As far as self destructing when exposed to bright light with the power applied I done this myself with no ill effect. |
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