Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Tubes / Valves
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Tubes / Valves All about our sweet vacuum tubes :) Threads about Musical Instrument Amps of all kinds should be in the Instruments & Amps forum

diyAudio Sponsor

Search for a tube at thetubestore.com                            Product reviews and more

Audio tubes for any amplifier: from high end home audio to classic guitar amps.

Quick links by tube type: 12AX7, EL34, 6L6, KT66, 6550, KT88, EL84, 12AU7, 12AT7, 6922, 6H30, 300B, 6V6, 6SN7 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 15th January 2008, 05:06 AM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Default Looking for comments in my first 300B project

I high value the contents posted on this forum and over the years it has been very helpful as I learn the art of building tube gear. I currently have a pair of Dynaco MKIIIs which I rebuilt from scratch about a year ago using the original circuit design and am happy with the result. Now, I'm ready to build my next project which is a 300B SET amp.

The circuit I have my eyes on is from a 2001 Japanese tube magazine, unfortunately, I don't understand Japanese so basically, I've been using it as a reference design and comparing it against what I could find from other people's 300B SET design on the net and comments made on this forum and making notes for myself along the way so that hopefully I can improve it for my own project...

I would like to solicit opinions from my fellow members about this design so that hopefully others can find merits with this design and build one for themselves...

For starters, the following is what I like to improve from the present design:
1] modify the HUM circuitry using 100 ohm 2W pots for minimum hum
2] Introduce B+ delay circuit with in-rush current thermistors as outlined in Pete Millet's site for a prolonged tube life
3] decouple 6.3 AC heater from the B++ circuit. I'm not sure what was the idea behind tying the two together.
4] I plan to use polypropylene coupling cap in prepamp stage one (C101) and paper in oil in pre-amp stage two (C103)

Once I'm done building this amp in phase 1, I plan on revisiting this design and further fine tune it perhaps using other pre-amp tubes.

Thanks for reading.

Norm
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 300b-project3a.jpg (99.7 KB, 425 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th January 2008, 05:08 AM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
here is the power supply section
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 300b-project3b.jpg (96.7 KB, 333 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th January 2008, 06:05 AM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
dsavitsk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chicago
Default Re: Looking for comments in my first 300B project

I think it is an overall poor design. There are many better choices.

Quote:
Originally posted by truenorth
3] decouple 6.3 AC heater from the B++ circuit. I'm not sure what was the idea behind tying the two together.
You need to bias up the heater supply in order to not violate heater to cathode voltage ratings.
__________________
http://www.ecpaudio.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th January 2008, 09:25 AM   #4
Klimon is offline Klimon  Belgium
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Leuven
Quote:
I think it is an overall poor design. There are many better choices.
I agree. Classical driver solutions for 300b are SRPP or 6sn7 cascode, pentode driver might be the better solution (we-91 style). DRD could be very interesting too, take a look at the electraprint website.

Simon
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th January 2008, 02:12 PM   #5
diyAudio Member
 
pmillett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dallas (but I am not a Texan!)
Sorry to sound like I'm joining in on bashing the design, but...

Can anybody think of a reason why an SRPP as the first stage - driving the grid of a 6J5 - is beneficial? Or is this just a Japanese fashion statement?

My personal favorite (you've all heard it before) would be a single-stage pentode. D3A or 12HG7 (or C3m or [insert favorite high Gm pentode here])...

Pete
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th January 2008, 02:29 PM   #6
kmtang is offline kmtang  Canada
diyAudio Member
 
kmtang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Vancouver
If you like SRPP included in the driver stage, I would recommend the schematic of Audio Note Kit 1. My friends said it sounds good.


Johnny
  Reply With Quote
Old 16th January 2008, 01:25 AM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Wow,

I guess west meet east design concepts didn't go too well here

In my research about the 6j5 is basically a single-triode 6sn7. Like I said it earlier, this is just part 1 of this project and I'll most likely plan for phase 2 with a different SRPP configuration based on some of the suggestions made here and do the A/B thing.

dsavitsk: If I understood your comment correctly about

Quote:
3] decouple 6.3 AC heater from the B++ circuit. I'm not sure what was the idea behind tying the two together.
Are you saying I will need it for heater bias supply right?


You've got to love this DIY audio thing, based on the comments made so far I'm seeing the road to get to audio summit is going to take some time to get there

Norm
  Reply With Quote
Old 16th January 2008, 10:13 AM   #8
Klimon is offline Klimon  Belgium
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Leuven
Quote:
You've got to love this DIY audio thing, based on the comments made so far I'm seeing the road to get to audio summit is going to take some time to get there
Not at all, this thread is taking you directly to the 'audio summit'. Just follow the sherpas

Simon
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tips/comments for upcoming 300B build xenithon Tubes / Valves 11 14th August 2008 11:48 AM
mp Project comments welcome Gunny Instruments and Amps 3 5th January 2007 08:04 PM
New 4 way project comments/suggestions? FullThrottleRic Multi-Way 37 21st September 2006 12:11 PM
Unusual project, comments please... jethdub Chip Amps 2 26th February 2006 01:07 AM
my sub project, Your comments ksl Subwoofers 30 7th December 2003 10:17 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:11 PM.

Page generated in 0.10196 seconds (78.47% PHP - 21.53% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio