PSU problem

tyor · 10th September 2007, 06:00 AM

I am building a psu for a 250TH SE amp. I have a transformer that gives 1040v ac Planning tu use hybrid rectifier. (tubes and SS) So I dont have to use 4 heater vindings. But kan I conect the fillaments on the pic in serie? The transformer has 1x5v for heaters and i plan to use 866 tubes ratet for 2.5v fillament.

Colt45 · 10th September 2007, 07:04 AM

should be ok, but make sure to take B+ from pin 4 ( if i remember, the one with the shield). so tie both pin 4 together.

better to use a 5v CT trafo though, incase slight unbalance in heater current, probably.

I don't know if i'd bother with 866's, they look nice but they're a pain in the ***.

I don't really see the point of this half silicon ****.. all or nothing!

tyor · 10th September 2007, 07:13 AM

I planned to use 4x866 but I have to use 3 seperate fillament vindings that can stand the high voltage. In this way I can use the one fillament vinding on the transformator, and still have the blue light

Colt45 · 10th September 2007, 09:36 AM

I'm not sure how you'll switch this then, with integrated 5v winding. You'll have to switch the HT... because 866 needs a long warmup.

Dave Cigna · 10th September 2007, 11:44 AM

Series filaments on 5V will work fine, but listen to Colt45. MV rectifiers need to heat up for half a minute before B+ is applied. You could use a separate filament supply with a separate power switch. Some people have used a single transformer and put a standby switch in one of the HV secondary leads, though 1000VAC on a switch scares me. A solution that I like is to put a single damper diode in series after the bridge. It takes 30 seconds or so to warm up, then provides a soft start. You can put a switch across the damper to short it once everything is warmed up and running.

tyor · 10th September 2007, 06:40 PM

Thanks for al the tips. But I have decided to revind a toriod trafo to 2.5V sek.

refference · 11th September 2007, 03:00 AM

" A solution that I like is to put a single damper diode in series after the bridge. It takes 30 seconds or so to warm up, then provides a soft start. You can put a switch across the damper to short it once everything is warmed up and running. "

Hi Dave ,

Wow !!!! Really a very , very good idea , congratulations .

I had never thought about this very simple solution !!!

Regards ,

Carlos

10th September 2007, 11:44 AM	#5
Dave Cigna diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Finger Lakes, NY	Series filaments on 5V will work fine, but listen to Colt45. MV rectifiers need to heat up for half a minute before B+ is applied. You could use a separate filament supply with a separate power switch. Some people have used a single transformer and put a standby switch in one of the HV secondary leads, though 1000VAC on a switch scares me. A solution that I like is to put a single damper diode in series after the bridge. It takes 30 seconds or so to warm up, then provides a soft start. You can put a switch across the damper to short it once everything is warmed up and running. __________________ January 20, 2009: Bush's last day

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10th September 2007, 07:04 AM	#2
Colt45 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada	should be ok, but make sure to take B+ from pin 4 ( if i remember, the one with the shield). so tie both pin 4 together. better to use a 5v CT trafo though, incase slight unbalance in heater current, probably. I don't know if i'd bother with 866's, they look nice but they're a pain in the *. I don't really see the point of this half silicon **.. all or nothing!

10th September 2007, 07:13 AM	#3
tyor diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: country	I planned to use 4x866 but I have to use 3 seperate fillament vindings that can stand the high voltage. In this way I can use the one fillament vinding on the transformator, and still have the blue light

10th September 2007, 09:36 AM	#4
Colt45 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada	I'm not sure how you'll switch this then, with integrated 5v winding. You'll have to switch the HT... because 866 needs a long warmup.

10th September 2007, 06:40 PM	#6
tyor diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: country	Thanks for al the tips. But I have decided to revind a toriod trafo to 2.5V sek.

11th September 2007, 03:00 AM	#7
refference diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SAO PAULO - SP	" A solution that I like is to put a single damper diode in series after the bridge. It takes 30 seconds or so to warm up, then provides a soft start. You can put a switch across the damper to short it once everything is warmed up and running. " Hi Dave , Wow !!!! Really a very , very good idea , congratulations . I had never thought about this very simple solution !!! Regards , Carlos

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