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Old 10th February 2003, 06:58 PM   #31
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Default THE GLEN C. TALES.

Hi Ian,

I'm not sure if Glen still builds all of the gear himself but he sure does all the circuit designs.

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I hear that Amar is now doing the majority of the buissness in the uk.(
Since 1988 or thereabout already.

Amar is more of a poet but he takes a lot of the burden from Glen.

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i hear that Glen used to build his superb desighns through the night
Glen always worked at night...

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Also know Don swayne,he told me when Glen built a huge pre amp in a basement and it nearly took all the mains out of the house fews box,the sound was "EXILLERATING".
The predecessor of the Mega Micro...a real gas factory that one.

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I beleive that Glen used rs components in the early days.
Even the ugly boxes for the Micro range of preamp came straight out the RS catalogue.
Some parts,like the coupling caps from Roederstein were brought in by his wife, Marianne, from Germany.
She works (or worked) there, I never met here though...Glen must have known why.

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Old 10th February 2003, 07:21 PM   #32
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Default Hi Frank.

Hi Frank,Simply an enthraling reply
I really appreciate all of the imfo,Its great to hear how the early days of hi-fi desighn came about.

I look at other companys and they seem to be very profit orientated from the outset.
I think that Glen must be one of the true originators of hi-end audio.
It amazes me just how many people have never bought or heard his equipment,instead buying what the current trend suggests.

The mega micro is an ideal example,i have heard many pre-amps and they are good but the micro has a nack of making things sound "REAL"and less hi-fi.
I had an audio reserach sp9 and it was a complete joke compared to the croft.I heard a vt100 power amp and it was even worse.I always thought that Glens desighns would do well in the far eat as they seem to appreciate these desighns more than other countrys.
I think that in many years to come his desighns will be fully recindled much like the early leeks and radfords.
Untill then we can but just enjoy the labours of an extra ordinary person in hi-fi.

Amazing how Glens wife used to work in audio aswell,superb.
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Old 10th February 2003, 10:08 PM   #33
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Hi Fred, Ian,Peter and old uncle Tom Cobly,

In fact anyone who simply doesn't just wish to argue the toss!!

Frank,

Yes I had also met Glenn, but only on a couple of occasions and I knew his place in Erdington.

The present Mrs. Bob comes from near there in Wylde Green, and I used to pass thro Erdington on the way to work each day, and then on thro Gravelly Hill (where spaghetti junction is now).

Don't mention Carlsberg Elephants to me, its now a dirty word at Bob's.

They were the only beers I really liked, and we always had a good stock in at home for many a year. Then about two years ago, supplies dried up everywhere, and after not getting any sense out of the usual suppliers, I contacted Carlsberg in the UK, and their Customer Services told me that there was no longer sufficient demand for them in the UK. Massive Bummer!!!

The last one I had was a single bottle at Xmas, which a kindly neighbour brought around for me. I had been notorious for my consumption of that golden nectar, and he had saved it for about two years, but as I had just fixed his wife's car radio, he knew it would be the best reward possible. I made the small bottle last for ages, it was so nice.

Now I suffer with the Carlsberg Special Brew, a bit stronger (9% as opposed to about 7%), but it is thicker and darker, more like barley wine, and I don't like it as much. After a few of those I can really walk on water, though, so they must be religious or something!


Ian,

The original Crofts were real Heath Robinson looking affairs, as Fred said full of RS bits, and by sight, you wouldn't think they could sound any good at all. Just goes to show you shouldn't ever judge anything by its appearance!

I nearly got ostracized when I first joined the Forum, and mentioned that a Threshold I once had (super looking affair with loads of aluminium everywhere, weighed a ton!) sounded rather bland to me! I knew that Nelson was responsible, but he seems good humoured (you have got to be looking like Albert Einstein!), but I don't think I made any friends in his camp of followers.

I continually get into bouts of jousting with others here because I make the mistake of telling the truth, and that can be heretical to some!

It doesn't deter me though.

I don't recall the Dome, but my memory of those alcoholic days is not so good sometimes, but I well recall many good nights out at the Opposite Lock Club, in Gas Street I seem to recall (somewhere off at the back of Broad St. anyway)

Strangely, I've never really taken to valves, myself, but I am just about familiar with 12 AX7s and 6005s

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Old 10th February 2003, 11:19 PM   #34
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Default THE GLEN C. TALES...CONTINUED.

Hi,

For all you Croftians here's a link where Amar dishes up the story behind our little genius:

EMINENT AUDIO

Mind you,I could add a chapter or two to that as well.

Hi Bob,

Come to think of it...it's been ages since I had an Elephant...apart from the occasional pink one, that is.
Hmmm...need to check if those are still on the menu in Belgium...if not, I'll just have to introduce you to are own brews then.

Hi Ian,

Please...don't call me Fred...it's a long story, but let's just say any other name would be O.K....while you're on that funny medicine that is.
You even don't remember that Penta show story I told you about a few months ago???

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Old 11th February 2003, 11:31 AM   #35
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Hi Frank,

I had better watch this name bit myself if you are a bit sensitive about it.

I was taken back in time when I read the reference you posted here about Glenn's beginnings. Who on earth was it who said there is no future in nostalgia!!! Must have been me.

I was at Himley Hall for that famous very first Croft demo, and if I remember rightly, it was Midland Hi-Fi who organised (at least partly) the show there.

I also went straight out and bought the Opus 3 record mentioned in the demo, with "Tiden Bara Gar" on it, I was so impressed with all that I heard! It is still a very good 'reference' recording, and I use it to this day.

The only other comment I would make on that story is that the name is not spelled correctly, and it does rather imply some ill-doings, which I will not comment upon here!

In fact the guy's nickname was "Norty" not "Naughty", which came from his real name, Mike Norton, who I got to know quite well about that time as he was interested in an amplifier of my own design which I was developing, possibly with some commercial interest in mind.

On the subject of Glenn's car, I loved the Martini colours on white 911's, and my best mate had one about that time too.

He bought it at about the time I also bought a new Lotus, and for several years we would go on annual holiday to various parts of France with our respective wives.

It used to really p*ss him off (but really boosted my ego!) because in France, the Porsches were quite plentiful, but hardly anyone had seen a Lotus, so everywhere we parked the locals were crawling all over my car, and ignoring his!

In one place where we spent ten days, I used to park on the seafront, overlooking the sands each day while we sunbathed, and one enthusiatic young local lad asked me all about the Lotus.

I showed him the works etc., and took him for a ride in it, whereafter he spent the remaining days whilst we were there, giving guided tours around it and spilling the beans to all the others who would crowd around with admiration. I couldn't hear what he was saying, but he was probably telling them all that it was his.

It was amazing and I reckon I could have sold tickets!!!

Those were the days alright, but I still have the car in the garage under wraps (it is still immaculate) but it hasn't (officially!) been out on the road since 1990.

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Old 13th February 2003, 06:02 AM   #36
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Default Hi Bob,

Hi Bob, Wow what a small world.

I also have done deakings with Midland hi fi studio in Wolverhampton.I know the 2 Micheals pretty well.

I am still trying to convince Mike to start advertising on the internet.The back of the shop is like an alladins cave of hi fi bits.

I had a demo of a perpetual technologies dac last week and it was very good.

I also know Himley hall in Dudley aswell (great day out for familys).

One thing i forgot to mention on the forum is that with the counterpoint sa-7 that i bought on the plug for the mains the earth plug has ben taken out.I was wondering if it is still ok to power up.I thought it may be a mod of some kind.

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Old 13th February 2003, 06:05 AM   #37
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Default Sorry Bob my spelling is bad.

Sorry bob that should have been "dealings"instead of deakings.
Must be this cheap keyboard i got from poundland
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Old 13th February 2003, 10:19 AM   #38
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Hi Bob, Wow what a small world.

I also have done deakings with Midland hi fi studio in Wolverhampton.I know the 2 Micheals pretty well.

I am still trying to convince Mike to start advertising on the internet.The back of the shop is like an alladins cave of hi fi bits.

I had a demo of a perpetual technologies dac last week and it was very good.

I also know Himley hall in Dudley aswell (great day out for familys).

One thing i forgot to mention on the forum is that with the counterpoint sa-7 that i bought on the plug for the mains the earth plug has ben taken out.I was wondering if it is still ok to power up.I thought it may be a mod of some kind.

Cheers Ian.
Hi Ian,

Yes it sure is a small world alright!


With regard to the earth you mentioned, I would be very wary of operating any gear (unless it was designed to be operated without any earth, of course) without an earth, especially if as you suggest here, it is the result of some modification.

You don't say exactly how this mod was done, but is it not possible to re-connect the earth in question, or if I correctly grasp what has happened here, perhaps use another lead or possibly change the mains plug?

I am always cautious here, also bearing in mind the usually very high voltages associated with valve gear, and generally, if the manufacturer has used an earth, it is good idea to retain it.

Maybe that's how I have survived for some 60 years.

What I would guess has happened here, is that it has been disconnected to overcome a 'hum' caused by an earth loop. This action may be fine all the while there is another piece of gear attached via cables and the other gear is already earthed, as it is likely (NOT for certain, if say 'ground lifts' are used) that the cable's shields will complete the ground circuit to the 'modified' gear.

However, it is not a practice which I agree with, since in a situation such as you have now where it has changed hands, or even if the cables in the system are temporarily disconnected, there is no earth at all, and this can be very dangerous with equipment which is intended to run with an earth.

If you have absolutuly no alternative but to try it like it is, be very wary of touching the case and operating any controls, until you are absolutely certain it is safe!!!!!!

Take care.

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Old 13th February 2003, 11:36 AM   #39
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Hi,

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You don't say exactly how this mod was done, but is it not possible to re-connect the earth in question, or if I correctly grasp what has happened here, perhaps use another lead or possibly change the mains plug?
The CP units that were exported left the US with the US powercord and were set to 220VAC at the distributor/dealer.

So,instead of changing the US plug for the corresponding local one often an adapter was fitted.

Maybe your SA-7 sports just a UK plug with the eart prong snapped of?

I never suffered from earth loops with the CP gear so for safety reasons it seems wise to replace your plug with a proper one.
Note that US colourcoding for live,neutral and earth is different.
Better to jot down the colourcoding.

Simply changing for another lead is not practical as the lead is intergrated and clamped at the case side.

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Refit that earth ASAP!

Disconnecting the earth at the plug is highly dangerous, whether the equipment is valve or transistor!

The purpose of the earth connection is that in the event of a fault connecting mains to the chassis, a sufficently high current will flow to blow the mains fuse quickly. Audio leads etc may well provide an earth path, but it will not be sufficiently low resistance to allow the current required to blow the fuse.

In the event of a hum loop, the correct connection to break is the bond from the signal ground to the chassis. Never break the mains safety bond.
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