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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Hi all.first - i'm completly idiot in things tube amps
so please dont slap me..... Was i wanted to ask is....how do you think could this amp (FATMAN iTUBE) work with DIY Open Baffle speakers? it probably sounds stupid, but i cant afford a tube amp for £1000....and this one costs only £300.I'm not interested in iPOD nor the dock (will throw it in the bin).But i would realy like to know what you think about this amp.Thanks a lot. P.S.: exceuse my english guys. http://www.dragonaudio.co.uk/catalog...roducts_id=988 Valve Type 2x6N1(ECC85) 1x6E2(EM87) |
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Thats not really a tube amp.. it says 13w / ch, but the EM87 is just for display, and there is simply no possible way to get 13w out of a ECC85. Must be mostly SS.
$600 is pretty ridiculous |
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Join Date: May 2007
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I've visitied your link about this iTube valve amplifier.
But, i can't understand how can it outputs 13W just with 2X6N1+8E2? FeaturesiTube Vacuum Tube Amplifier iTube Docking Station Brush / Glove for cleaning Power cable Audio cable to connect Docking Station and Amplifier Banana Plug speaker cables Aux source audio cable for connecting CD player etc Video cable to connect from docking station to TV Specifications iTube valve amp SpecificationsPower Output 13Wx2 Frequency Response 20Hz – 20KHz (±1.5Db) Harmonic Distortion 0.5% Signal-To-Noise Ratio 86Db Input Impedance 100K Output Impedance 4ohm, 8ohm Valve Type 2x6N1(ECC85) 1x6E2(EM87) Power Supply AC100~120V/50~60Hz AC220~240V/50~60Hz Amp (LxWxH) 260x145x130mm Dock (WxDxH) 155x130x123mm Weight 4.3KGs |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
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thats why i'm asking yous, the experts....i have no clue about this things, i just love the sound of tube amps.....
ok, another quastion.....any cheap(relatively) tube amp ready build, say plug and play for around $600 ? i think not....i dont need huge power, just that is enough for an OB design, like the Quassar.... I appriciate any suggestions.... Thanks guys |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hengelo, The Netherlands
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They use a Philips TDA7265 amplifier chip most probably, just like the original Dared MP-5, which was earlier on this planet and easier to afford.
Dared MP-5
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That very amplifier set is for sale at my local 'London Drugs' for over $600CAD.
I set eyes on it and almost screamed. I had a gander up through the grille plate on the bottom and it appears that the tubes aren't doing much. There's a SS chip for the power amplification and that's about it. The middle tube is a cathode ray indicator and is actually connected to indicate audio level. I didn't get a good look at what the other two tubes do. What a joke this thing is... |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hengelo, The Netherlands
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Well, it is a hybrid amp. The ECC85s are used for voltage amplification and the SS for current amplification. Each device doing what it is best at.
This can work fairly well, I have such a hybrid amp myself, a 6DJ8 for voltage amplification followed by LM3875s. Of course it does not have the magic of all tube, nor the sound of for instance a pure class A mosfet ala Pass or Krell, but it can sound pretty good when designed properly. Given the experience of TL audio they did probably a good job, but I would rather have their 182 or 252 which are proper all tube amps...
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lisboa
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In my humble opinion, I would look at these fellows:
http://www.wduk.worldomain.net/ http://wduk.worldomain.net/acatalog/AmpKits.html I have the now discontinued KECL82 ULPP kit and it's superb for the price and overall quality of it. It's assembled in one or 2 evenings without a fuss, and I believe their newer design follow the same guidelines. For 69£ more than that hybrid amp, their WDKEL84 is a very entry level high quality kit, and it's the real deal. Just my 2 cents...
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Simpleton ----->
I had a look on that site.the amps are beautifull..yous guys must know your stuff Another maeby silly question....the price by this amp WDKEL84 is it "all inclusive" (£369), or is there something hiden, taht i have to pay for.Like som parts.is it complet kit? if so, than its much better than the iTUBE. I realy appriciate you help. Danny |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lisboa
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When i bought my KECL82, the kit was complete with everything, I just had to buy a different mains cable, as the plug was UK, not EU :P. I still have the cable inside the cushioned package!
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