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Roll off frequency.

Hi all,

I´d like to find Jadis roll off frequency.
I think main formula is f=1/(2*pi*C*R). What are R and C values or what to do to find them?

Katapum
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 24th April 2007, 06:44 PM #2 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio R is in ohms, C is in Farads. To convert microfarads (uF) to farads, divide by 1 million. This page is handy for determining the cutoff (-3dB) of an RC circuit. This wont necessarily give you the amps actual limits, the OPT comes into play here too. __________________ Be sure your foil hat has a good low impedance ground.
 24th April 2007, 07:02 PM #3 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio HF rolloff will be determined by OPT or whenever the pair of 12AX7 sharing .8ma runs out of steam trying to drive 3 6550s in UL. I wouldnt expect it to be very high. __________________ Be sure your foil hat has a good low impedance ground.
 24th April 2007, 07:28 PM #4 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Europe For now I´m only concern about two ½ 12AX7 and 3 6550. So how can I exactly find C and R?
 24th April 2007, 07:35 PM #5 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio The dominant roll off will be .47uF and 474k. 474k is a very high grid leak for what appear to be fixed bias 6550s. __________________ Be sure your foil hat has a good low impedance ground.
 24th April 2007, 07:40 PM #6 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Europe And Miller capacitance doesn’t play any roll?
 24th April 2007, 07:57 PM #7 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio The .47uF and 477k is for LF roll off. Miller capacitance enters into HF and is much more complicated to calculate. It is often worse than it appears as the 12AX7s must supply the current to charge this capacitance, the 12AX7s output impedance is not the only factor. Calculating Miller capacitance for UL op is involved. Designing Common-Cathode Triode Amplifiers. __________________ Be sure your foil hat has a good low impedance ground.
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 Posted by fdegrove One caveat, the amp is seriously limited in high frequency response by its driver stage, it's starts to roll off gently from ~ 16KHz.

So how can I find 16kHz value?
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 24th April 2007, 09:49 PM #9 diyAudio Member   Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South East This page details the effects and calcs for Miller Effect http://www.aikenamps.com/MillerCapacitance.html __________________ the northern seas are cold, but they're our own.

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