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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Hello again,
My last query for a while - I shall attempt to resist the urge to tinker further until the winter - thanks for all your help. My SSE has been in service for just over two weeks now and has been running without problems. The PCB now has quite a bit of blackening at the solder joints, and it's particularly bad around the valve sockets (see picture). These solder joints were completely blemish free after soldering and before power-up (honest!). Anybody else have the same thing, or know what the cause might be? I'm a bit worried that it'll get worse until something goes pop. Cheers! |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Newark, DE
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You didn't clean off the solder flux before you powered up the amp. Now the flux is baked dry from the heat of the tubes, and probably won't ever come off.
Don't worry, it should be pretty much harmless. I did the same thing on mine, and it looks like yours. I wish I had cleaned it before I played it, but I was impatient. ![]() http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...E/P1140548.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...E/P1100584.jpg |
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Ah, I wondered if that might be the cause! I applied flux separately to the solder and it was difficult not to overdo it. I made a half-hearted attempt to remove obvious excess after soldering but the sharp edges made access hard. No doubt impatient too.
Will use the wife's toothbrush and a soapy solution next time. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
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You may be able to scrape off the stubborn ones with toothpick or metal tweezers. Then use isopropyl (rubbing alcohol) on "Q" tips to remove the remaining.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: South Florida
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Yes, it's crispy fried flux. It's harmless and I don't bother to clean it off unless I am taking pictures of the board. There are commercial products that will remove it. I got one called "Flux Off" to clean up the boards for pictures. Laquer thinner will remove the green stuff, don't use it.
After the flux has hardened to the dark brown color, it is very brittle and much of it will crumble away with a little persuasion from an Xacto knife or small screwdriver.
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Hello Horsebox - take at look at this link for a look at how I have done this when slaughtering stuff together. Alcohol Dispensing Pump Bottle
The pump bottles are very handy but can get expensive. Take a look at beauty supply shops as the ladies use them to dispense acetone when doing finger nail jobs and they have the bottles for reasonable. Also - I prefer to use acetone for flux removal - if using alcohol use the denatured type rather than the isopropyl (however you Brit's might spell "isopropyl") i-so-pro-pall??? Isopropyl alcohol is commonly known as "rubbing alcohol" and contains water (H2O) which will cause corrosion to form down the road. Hope this helps!!!
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: ..
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wrong - acetone, other ketones can eat some common plastics, especially polycarbonate and polystyrene caps
isopropyl is safer, the 90% grade should be good for dissolving most organic residue at worst I would carefully spot apply acetone only if and where the isopropyl wasn't working water is perfectly fine on most assembed pcb - a 1st pass is a simple tap water/detergent cleaning with a toothbrush distilled water, isopropyl rinses the alcohol as a final rinse actually helps dry the board, parts, crevices by diluting the retained water and flows away more freely still air blast, gentle heat or just leaving overnite to dry out any moisture can help anyway distilled water is not a very good conductor if the board is properly clean corrosion is only an issue if you still have conductive residue on the board Last edited by jcx; 17th May 2011 at 03:43 AM. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: San Antonio TX
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I've heard some electronics fluxes can turn corrosive, but I've never experienced that myself. I've always used an old toothbrush and IPA. Running water for water-soluble flux. Followed by a compressed air blast. The OP's baked flux can probably be mostly rid of using a dental pick and the alcohol-toothbrush treatment.
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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If acetone is used carefully, especialy BEFORE adding plastic components that are sensitive, it is superior to alcohol for this purpose.
Getting a good resin to coat your boards will seal in the clean! |
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