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Old 10th May 2011, 06:41 PM   #1
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Default Is this motor run cap suitable for SSE?

In light of the fact that I'm struggling with the triode/UL and CFB wiring I thought I'd go for a relatively cheap and simple upgrade and install a motor run capacitor.

I came across this on eBay - any of you wise sages know if it's fit for purpose as the supplemental capacitor in the SSE?

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Old 11th May 2011, 01:27 AM   #2
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Looks good, interesting all the uk versions are cabled. Heres what we use on the other side of the pond:

PRC100 Round 100 mfd 370 Volts Motor Run Capacitor | eBay

or this guy:
370V and 440V Motor Run Capacitor(s) 2F-120 F | eBay


Another cheap upgrade would be a choke.
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Old 11th May 2011, 10:58 PM   #3
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I came across this on eBay - any of you wise sages know if it's fit for purpose as the supplemental capacitor in the SSE?
Yes, it will do just fine.
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Old 12th May 2011, 02:17 PM   #4
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Thanks guys. Up and running with motor run and choke now.

I haven't noticed a huge change in sound with the cap; bass seems tighter though, perhaps a bit more 'space' between the different instruments too.

Just came across a post from Ty_Bower from last year that illustrates the CFB wiring so I'll have a go at that this afternoon....
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Old 12th May 2011, 03:35 PM   #5
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bass seems tighter though
That is the main benefit, although the results depend on your speakers and musical tastes. Sharp transients should improve too. Anything that asks for a quick shot of energy from the power supply should benefit from the synergy of the two different caps.
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What choke is used for the SSE? I didn't see it in the parts list.
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Old 13th May 2011, 03:20 PM   #7
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triad C-14X 6 henry 150ohm 200ma.

Triad Magnetics - C-14X - Inductors - Passive Components - Allied Electronics

Or the Hammond 193J 10 henry 82ohm 200ma (hint 4x more cost) if you want it to look nice

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=122-375


The next best thing after that is the hammond 193h 5 henry 65 ohm 200ma

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=122-370


If you want to pick your own, the requirments are 500 volts or more, and 200ma or more. Then its how much cash you want to spend on henry, and he's not a cheap date.


On an untested note, edcor sells them too, just call to check voltage limit.

http://www.edcorusa.com/products/777-xc87-2h-300ma.aspx

http://www.edcorusa.com/category/26-cxcseries.aspx

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What choke is used for the SSE? I didn't see it in the parts list.
I think a lot of people use the RDC-100, but I have the edcor CXC100-5H-200mA on my SSE and it works fine (albeit at 4X the cost)...
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Old 14th May 2011, 01:38 AM   #10
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I'm using the Hammond 193J also. It's not specified on the parts list as it's an 'optional' part i.e. don't need it to make the amp work, just make sure you've got R1 installed instead, if not using choke.

After a few days with the supplemental motor run cap I can say it was 15 very well spent. I'm running the baby Edcors and my only (small) gripe was that the bass could be a bit woolly, or soft, lacking in punch. Motor run cap fixes that and now the bass is tight and more precise.

Wish I had more success with the CFB and UL wiring. I tried to follow Ty_Bower's wiring pictures but all it does is cancel any sound at all coming from that channel. I'm doing something wrong but am more than happy to live a triode life for the time being!

Good luck with your build kec, it's a lot of fun!
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