Tinnitus... anyone else got it?

Very gentle creatures, horses. :eek:

Flushing a Horse's Sinus - YouTube

That Nag nobly and quietly put up with some stuff that I wouldn't fancy!

Sinuses are hollow cavities in the skull designed for lightness. Lot's of people get trouble when the germs infest them. The drain gets blocked and it all gets annoying.

My Dad always recommended the warm saline water sniff. Bit like Sea-swimming really. Runs off the germs and allergens. Must be better than surgical interventions. But do it for a couple of weeks. Like me, he got his nose busted, so some issues there no doubt.

There must be a reason that the specialists are called ENT or "Ear, Nose and Throat."

The Eustachian tubes are meant to drain the inner ear. Germs occasionally run riot there, leading to Meniere's Disease which is when your sense of balance goes haywire. Feel like you are falling through the floor. You get something like this with 'Flu occasionally.
 
We used to use the breather the vapour from Vicks over a hot bowl with a towel shroud - works really well - I have one of those electric Vapour gadgets these days - "Mesh Nebulizer" that use with specific dilution of Hydrogen Peroxide - apparently recommended for onset of Covid-19 (not sure of this) but excellent for any breathing/nose/ear problems, especially the kids
 
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I picked up some of Flare's products. I got the Calmer, the supposed tinnitus cure, which I haven't yet tested. I also got the Earshade, which is basically memory foam on a lolly stick.

I was using cotton wool to keep air and moisture out of the ear canal and help with the pain. These earShades are similar in function but the frequency response is different. I seem to hear more of the midrange. Relative to the level I normally would. Cotton only attenuates some of the HF, this seems to do that and slightly amplify the midrange. I'm not sure how, but it feels really strange. I think there's some additional bone conduction through the lolly stick.

I tried to compare it with a standard memory foam plug that I bought for $10 off eBay (for 50 plugs). Those have no lolly stick and are extremely uncomfortable to insert because they are massive. Built for elephants probably. Anyway because of their size they don't scrunch down as much and tend to push out of the canal. But the frequency response is linear, very similar to cotton but the HF attenuation is lower.

I will try the Calmer soon, once I get used to the sound of these.
 
It depends on your own skin, mine is not particuliarly subject bacterial colonisations or eczema inflamations.
BUT, you should look at your hands skin few time after some repetitive hard work, if you stress it your ear canal skin will start to raise in thickness in order to resist to the mecanical abrasion making it a lot less flexible. the rigidity will mecanically stress your internal ear tissues making your tinnitues worse and worse.
 
Hi All.
I finally received the parcel from my daughter. DHL took an inordinate amount of time to ship it after receiving it. I can report that trying to use the Flare inserts while listening to music, messes the sound up (everything goes rather dull - the silicone structure no doubts damps out too many mid-range and high frequencies.) It has definitely done nothing for my tinnitus.
Fortunately I did not pay a dime for it. My daughter thought it would be an interesting experiment. Love her to bits - wonderful young lady.

Kevin
 
Computers with noticeable fan noise are the worst, I've found. I don't know if it's also electronics noise (squealing power supplies and such) but I have read that some ball bearing fans are tuned to emit high frequencies. I wonder how much something the brain doesn't hear is still stressing to the cells attached to the ear hairs. Computer noise is what causes not only the "static" sound to increase but ends up causing whistling/ringing sounds that are very unpleasant.

One rock concert is what really hurt my hearing. I only went to one but stupidly went near the front row. I have read another musician say the musicians in that band are all deaf, which explains why the opening act was a pleasant volume and when they came on they kept motioning to the sound guy to keeping turning things up. My ears rang for a year and a half after that concert. I still hear a hiss. The intensity changes. The best thing is to have no noise exposure during the day, including things like television.

I also was forced into shooting as a kid. Target practice and such. My father thought it was one of the important paths to manhood (to damage one's hearing). Even though I wore headphones designed for sound blockage my ears would ring strongly after a shot. He also dragged me to drag races.

Even if I wear firm foam earplugs and headphones my riding lawnmower causes the tinnitus to increase a lot.

There was a computer company that promised a fanless computer capable of driving high-performance processors and graphics cards. It was called Calyos and there was a kickstarter. I was very disappointed when I discovered I had missed the opportunity to back it and get the case at a much lower price than normal retail. But, it ended up being vaporware. The only people who ever got their hands on them were the tech site reviewers.

When I listen to music with headphones I have to open the Audio Midi Setup in macOS to manually turn the volume below the lowest normal GUI setting. I have to edit the decibels.

I also replaced my noisy fridge with a linear compressor LG that is extremely quiet. I am also using radiant electric heat, despite the higher cost, to avoid fan noise. At noisy restaurants I would use earplugs. Covid has cut down restaurant noise — at least where I go.

I also don't listen to music in my car, which has a diesel engine. It's too difficult to hear over the engine and road noise without turning it up too high.


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As for sinus treatments... One that does improve sinus clarity is distilled water mixed with a relatively small amount of xylitol. Xylitol is consumed by bacteria which starve because they lack the enzymes to digest it. If you overdo the xylitol you will get a crust from it. Erythritol has the same effect as xylitol but I have not heard of it being used as a nasal rinse. It is a lower molecular weight molecule so may be less of a crust former. I have personally used xylitol I mixed with distilled water and I discovered that it did improve the clearness of my sinuses but also that overdoing it results in unpleasant crust. I did not use it long-term. My sinuses don't seem to be, at all, related to my tinnitus.

Zinc nasal sprays also cause permanent reduction or loss of sense of smell I think. So, I would avoid those.

As for hydrogen peroxide... It is an oxidant that damages tissues/cells indiscriminately. People use it for all sorts of things involving the body and it's generally unwise to use it for any of them. For instance, rather than improving healing, when applied to wounds it delays healing by causing more damage. Like ozone-forming "air purifiers" it's not only snake oil but harmful snake oil. That's my opinion. My local dentists were having people gargle it due to Covid. I complied initially but decided that aging my mouth/larynx by subjecting them to cellular oxidative damage is too ridiculous given the fact that there are chemicals that will kill bacteria and viruses without indiscriminately attacking healthy cells with equal ferocity.
 
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I had a disco, setting that up in a old movie theater in 1983.

I have noise in ears who is always present, but sometimes I do not hear it, special when I am with mother and talk about things.

I have already the idea that pulsed gms/5G masts can do this. I can not talk with a mobile phone for more that 10 minutes, do I go llonger then that, I get heavy noise/piep,tick tick and lose mine balance, I do fall to one side.

So as you now now, these pulsed apparatus are not so friendly for some people.
 
I just read that Tinnitus is not an Ear problem but a Brain Disorder!

They know this but wont tell you. Try "SYNAPSES XT" I read....

I just may try it!!

dude, quoting that claims from supplement seller is very very likely as Snake Oil in audio world

i expected your from a scientific research result, not just a junk false claim

i feel insulted for the phrase "Brain Disorder"
 
Tinnitus is no laughing matter. It's basically a neurological disorder. Temporary tinnitus brought on by excess SPLs is related but not the same thing. Ear infections, blood thinners, stimulants, stress, cardiovascular health, various auto immune problems, pinched or blocked nerves in the back and diet all can cause and affect it.

My mom had severe tinnitus, which caused her hearing to distort badly at certain frequencies (sort of like IM distortion in audio gear). That will drive you insane and there's nothing she could do to relieve it, even by trying to sleep. It would keep her awake and even pushed her into becoming suicidal. The tinnitus would get better when the nerves in her back weren't being pinched off, but the severe arthritis made it a constant issue. Doctors didn't help and couldn't believe the cause. Most doctors are ignorant pill pushers with their own agendas who just want easy maintenance patience as repeat customers.

I have chronic pain and occasionally I get tinnitus flair ups. Bad weather, diet, stress and lack of sleep makes it worse. It can be depressing when it does flair up because it takes away from the enjoyment of music. I'm over 50 and can still hear up to 16k. I consider myself lucky that way but I avoid loud noises whenever possible. I also don't use in ear headphones, mainly because they all suck and never will approach the listening experience of a decent large high end speaker setup. No headphone will give you that complete visceral listening experience - the kind you feel it and hear it as if it were live.

I listen to loud music as well, sometimes at 100+ dB, but at very low distortion levels which is what makes a big difference in the harm it does to your hearing. I like music with a large dynamic range, mainly the kind that makes you jump out of your seat unexpected and preferably from an analog source like vinyl. Don't bother with that newer, overcomoressed BS most younger people call music these days. Thats a whole new topic...