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Old 30th January 2018, 01:26 PM   #1
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What are your current adventures in computers?
I'm currently installing ubuntu mate desktop on a raspberry pi 3 so that I can use it instead of my power hungry pc for basic email/web/netflix/vlc/steam gaming streaming tasks.

I have an on-grid solar power system and will turn my old pc into a fileserver and steam game streaming platform so that I can play videogames on my raspberry pi. The fileserver will turn off every day in the afternoon and turn on in the morning to save on power. The raspberry pi will stay on 24/7.

Going to try this trick for a chromium port for netflix: YouTube

I will eventually get a smaller monitor for power consumption reasons but I'm waiting on the energy efficiency of LCD monitors to improve, I doubt I will be able to ever get a 44" LCD television that consumes 25 watts however you can always dream. I currently have a 44" lcd tv hooked up to my main pc but I want to reduce its power consumption greatly and replace it eventually, once technology improves.

I am also in discussions to buy a vintage Apple iMac G3 so that I can play some of the old games that are on that machine that I used to play and explore the performance of the powerpc architecture.

Anyone else?
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Old 30th January 2018, 02:30 PM   #2
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I use RPi 3 for almost everything.
I found Raspbian to work much better than Ubuntu.
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Old 30th January 2018, 02:44 PM   #3
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Mac is not good for games as they are designed for business but they beat Microsoft hands down. Play Station/Xbox is for games.
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Old 30th January 2018, 03:13 PM   #4
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Ubuntu is the "windows/microsoft" of the linux world.
If you want to go linux you are better off using slackware (arm), no shitstemd and pulseaudio, etc. is easily ripped out of it.
Because of systemd/poettering/red hat crap and performance reasons I am creating my own linux-based os.
Also a tv as monitor will have major input lag.
For serious work 1 or 2 21~24 inch monitor(s) is/are the sweet spot.
27 inch is almost too big already.
And I wouldn`t buy anything crApple.
If you want/need serious reliable performance it is better to get a used (dual) xeon cpu workstation for cheap and upgrade.
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Old 30th January 2018, 03:43 PM   #5
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I use RPi 3 for almost everything.
I found Raspbian to work much better than Ubuntu.
Nice!

I would have to agree with you on your opinion of ubuntu mate. I installed it and when I did an update/upgrade it installed an incompatible version 55 of firefox which wouldn't start... tsk tsk

I'm currently giving rasbian with desktop a try.
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Old 30th January 2018, 03:54 PM   #6
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Ubuntu is the "windows/microsoft" of the linux world.
If you want to go linux you are better off using slackware (arm), no shitstemd and pulseaudio, etc. is easily ripped out of it.
Because of systemd/poettering/red hat crap and performance reasons I am creating my own linux-based os.
Have you tried:
gNewSense 4 Ucclia - gNewSense GNU/Linux
Welcome to devuan.org | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System

or a *BSD variant?

I would have to agree with you on your opinions of redhat and systemd, however redhat has been writing supporting code for distributions for quite a while now so to ensure that you aren't getting their code running on your system you should probably consider a BSD distro.

As for the Raspberry Pi you are kind of limited in what distros you can run, if there was a BSD or Libre-Linux distro released tomorrow I would jump ship.

I just wanted to use ubuntu for its nice shiney desktop anyway but that can be ignored.

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Also a tv as monitor will have major input lag.
Mine thankfully doesn't.

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For serious work 1 or 2 21~24 inch monitor(s) is/are the sweet spot.
27 inch is almost too big already.
I sit in bed all day and the tv is at the end of my bed sitting atop two large speakers. I lay in bed to rest my back.

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And I wouldn`t buy anything crApple.
I just bought it so I can take a walk down memory lane, I got it for $30

I've probably owned at some point every single version of a x86 system including everything from 8086-8088-286-386-486-586-686-pentium 1-pentium pro-pentium 2-pentium 3-pentium 4-amd athlon, amd athlon xp, amd athlon x2, x4, bulldozer core, APU generations. core 2 duo, core 2 quad, core i3, core i7. 68k based systems, powerpc variants. amiga/mac. etc. 6502's commodore 64 for example. vic 20, etc.

I've also owned in the past a few various rare systems that were based on the RISC architecture and also the R4000: R4000 - Wikipedia

I think the only cpu I haven't owned so far is a core i5.

I have also so-far never owned a system with a libreboot bios, but I might change that in the future, there are a few libreboot compatible motherboards for sale for cheap on ebay.

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If you want/need serious reliable performance it is better to get a used (dual) xeon cpu workstation for cheap and upgrade.
I already have a LGA1151 system which I'll repurpose for a fileserver once I get this rasberry pi up and running and doing my daily tasks.

Thanks for replying.
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Old 30th January 2018, 04:20 PM   #7
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I know (have run in the past) Debian/Devuan(=Debian without systemd).
gNewSense is new to me, will check that one out, thanks.
Although I will roll my own.
Gaming monitors have around 3-5ms input lag.
Tvs around 15-50ms.
I guess a 15 ms one will be tolerable.
Ah ok.
For memory reasons, nice.
Nice list although xeons are missing. You will be impressed by a serious workstation, no comparison to a regular desktop pc.
AMD has caught up now with EPYC and Threadripper.
Amiga has been the best overall anyway imho.
R4000, not bad.
And yes, if it gets much "worse" BSD will be the way to go.
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Old 30th January 2018, 05:42 PM   #8
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For serious work 1 or 2 21~24 inch monitor(s) is/are the sweet spot.
27 inch is almost too big already.
And I wouldn`t buy anything crApple.
I am glad this is a purely subjective thread rather than one based on reality or you would be a sitting duck. Those 3 lines above speak volumes.
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I am glad this is a purely subjective thread rather than one based on reality or you would be a sitting duck. Those 3 lines above speak volumes.
Your opinion.
We will see.
Don`t hide.
Bring it on.
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:04 PM   #10
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The computer thread.
OK, I don't understand the term crApple. I've owed many since 1994 and the only problem in all those years has been one iMac that had a cap problem in the PSU about 5 years ago. That's it. I use these computers all day. My office currently has 4 of them. I'm not familiar with a track record from any PC that comes close to this level of trouble free quality. To me, they are what Toyota was in the 80's and 90's.

27" is the smallest you can use and be productive in my line of work. You need a screen wide enough to have multiple pages open without overlap. You also need that 'multiple desktop' (iMac) for going between files that you pluck from all the time, or if you want to keep certain files separate and reduce clutter. Basically you can have 10 or more screens if you want.

A second monitor can be nice but in my case it's superfluous with the multiple desktop option.

EDIT: I just checked and I can activate up to 15 desktop screens.
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