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Old 30th January 2018, 05:40 PM   #11
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crApple only in the sense of overpriced and limited in function, upgradeability and performance compared to a (linux) pc of the same price.

And then you even won`t get the full/complete apple.

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Someone already ate from it.

You can get a pc for less money that has higher quality components and is performing a lot better.

In a office, etc. environment they might do well if initial cost and cost of replacing instead of upgrading is of no concern. Although in the long run cost might be relative compared to a windows machine and its troubles.

Also pc problems are mostly software related (windows).

A correctly setup linux machine will run forever without problems if the hardware is alright.

Well I guess it depends on what you use it for.
At home I wouldn`t want a apple box though.

I think it`s just because I don`t like microsoft and apple much...
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Old 30th January 2018, 05:43 PM   #12
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GP - save yourself the grief and accept that some folks love their Apple devices - my wife and I have a total of over 20 all told. I've also been using MS based PCs at work for over 25yrs for bookkeeping and payroll applications - for which there's far more software than in the Mac world. Those have given me far more grief than any of the Apples.

My boss is far more of a techie than I, and in those 25yrs has worn through at least a dozen PC based laptops by every maker extant, and about 5(?) years ago switched to a MacBook Pro, with Parallels to run various MS based software. He swears by it - not at it - and even on a wi-fi connection, it's no slower and certainly less problematic than any of the 8 Windows desktop machines in our office / production network.
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Old 30th January 2018, 05:51 PM   #13
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OK.
But most issues are windows/microsoft related.
If you use linux it is a different story altogether.
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:17 PM   #14
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I run two 24" monitors at home, one vertical for PDFs and text documents, one horizontal for browsing and schematics.

At work I run three 24" monitors and wish I could run a fourth.

As for differences between Apple vs PC systems, I like the open architecture of the PC and competition it fosters among manufacturers.

Apple is good, but as a monopolistic product family it is overpriced.
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:36 PM   #15
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The computer thread.
I am a purebread Mac user. I get more done in less time with less hassle and a much better reliability. You can buya PC for less, but similar quality costs similar (or more) money.

A solid UNIX based OS with a well thot out user interface. I use 2 Macs in my office, a MacBook Pro upstairs, and a macMini as a music server. The music server and the machines downstairs are exclusivily or often used via the MacBook over the network. A coherent software/hardware environment is what give it a lot of its power. I run Windows XP when needed on my Xenon tower when needed — it is a crap OS, but i have one piece of software that i need.

And i have a collection of othe macs.

I am interested in the raspberry pi (or similar) but really want a native FORTH OS.

dave

Note: Cal’s cap issue was an issue for almost all PC makers because of a bunch of conterfiet caps that hit the market… it was longer ago than 5 years. We repaired a lot of these (get the machine for free, add about $100 in parts & labour and pass on a useful computer to someone that could not otherwise afford one).
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:43 PM   #16
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The computer thread.
If you want to (be forced to) learn how computers work - Buy a Windows PC
If you want to geek out and spend your time with ultra-geeking - Install Linix
If you want to get work done - Buy a Mac.



disclaimer, I have all 3.
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:44 PM   #17
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Note: Cal’s cap issue was <snip> longer ago than 5 years.
Yes, the repair was about 5 years ago. I think the comp. had done 10 years or so before the issue. It was an old 24" iMac DP that was seeing only light duty at the time.
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:50 PM   #18
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I hate computers, I've never had one, and have no intention of getting one, ever.....
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Old 30th January 2018, 06:57 PM   #19
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Scott,

If you don’t have a computer how are you posting? and don’t say your phone… these days they are very powerful computers with small screens usually running iOS or Android.

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It's a Chromebook, not what I (or some others) would call a computer, more an interweb access device, useless for running programs which to my mind is what a computer does.
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