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Old 8th November 2017, 10:26 PM   #11
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If you buy a Windows laptop buy the fastest you can.
I have an old dual core 2GHz laptop and it takes forever to boot and do anything.
It is ok for backup of important work.
Maybe its just me being used to a 4.5GHz desktop machine.
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Old 8th November 2017, 10:54 PM   #12
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Does it allow .net programs ?
What about redist for c++ programs ?
A Mac running Bootcamp & Windows is a native Windows machine. It will run everything.

With the Windows virtualizes — Parallels, VMWare Fusion, SUN VirtualBox — you are still running Windows natively but being in a “box” some performance may be sacrificed. WINE (or supported variant Crossover Mac) don’t use WIndows at all so aps have to be well behaved.

I detest Windows, it has a kludgy UI and makes getting work hard to do. Windows has more apt, but quantity does not trump quality, but there are niches where there are no Mac app, so i have Boot Camp (XP is god awful) to run the few PC aps i can’t live without (S+L Woofer Tester2) and i keep an old G5 Tower to run some ancient OS9 aps for which i have yet to find any replacements.

Macs tend to have much longer shelf life than windows boxes, are generaly better built, have highest customer satisfaction, free OS upgrades that reach back to much older machines. Mac sales as a portion of the market keep growing — IBM found a significant cost savings for employees switching over to Mac (much of that reduced support costs),

The bit about iPhone screend is FUD, iPhones still enjoy highest customer satisfaction.

If you buy a Mac you can run almost any OS you need — with a virtualizer, all at the same time, so the only compromise is paying for a higher quality piece of hardware.

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Old 8th November 2017, 11:01 PM   #13
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A Mac running Bootcamp & Windows is a native Windows machine. It will run everything.

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I write and sell software and have had problems with mac users running my software. Got sick of refunding so stopped saying it would run on a mac.

While I have been writing software for pc's since about 1985 I have never found it viable to write for the mac. There just isn't the vast user base like Windows PC's.
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With BootCamp it is a native Window’s machine, nothing about it to differentiate it from an HP or a Dell… If your software doesn’t run it is a Windows problem not a Mac problem.

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With BootCamp it is a native Window’s machine, nothing about it to differentiate it from an HP or a Dell… If your software doesn’t run it is a Windows problem not a Mac problem.

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I have sold around 3000 copies on Windows machines and not had a problem that wasn't the user unable to follow simple instructions.

I can only take what mac customers say that it wont run on their machines.
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A Mac with BootCamp is a Windows machine, given what you say none of them would have had issues to complain about.

I could see issues with the early versions of the virtualizers and certainly with the WINE-like apt.

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A Mac with BootCamp is a Windows machine, given what you say none of them would have had issues to complain about.

I could see issues with the early versions of the virtualizers and certainly with the WINE-like apt.

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.net and the c++ redist's are a part of Windows not Windows programs.
So WINE would have to be able to update itself to include the .net framework.

It was bad enough trying to get .net software to run on Windows machines never mind something that emulated it.

I always included the correct version of .net installer with my software to ensure user had correct version.
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BootCamp is not an emulation, it is a native Window’s machine. It acts exactly like a Window’s machine.

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because it's rotten. haha You don't notice the rotten smell in the walled garden.
Depends on your budget and software.
Most non-tech people are very happy with the switch over. Be prepared to open the wallet 3 to 4 times as wide every time you need parts, service or new "apps" software.
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Be prepared to open the wallet 3 to 4 times as wide every time you need parts, service or new "apps" software.
For the Mac? You missed the part where IBM found Macs considearbly less expensive than PCs when you include everything. And that finding over a considerable and well tracked sample. We will see if Wal-Mart finds the same as they switch over.

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