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Old 7th August 2017, 12:35 PM   #1
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Default Robots and Self driving vehicles are coming!

A Doom and Gloom thread.

My take as an industrial automation engineer is that (1) there is no menial job that can not ultimately be replaced by a robot, and (2) self driving vehicles will displace commercial drivers within the foreseeable future (say, 20 years).

The justification in many cases is "Safety" and "elimination of "menial work", with the added response that people can be retrained for other "support" jobs. However the number of displaced jobs is usually orders of magnitude greater than the new "support" jobs.

The net result of these and other automation changes will ultimately be a society in which most people will be unemployable.

We are creating a technological nightmare.
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They said that about the Jacquard loom and the luddites started smashing them. However we seem to have done OK. These disruptions happen and we work our way around them.
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Old 7th August 2017, 01:07 PM   #3
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People thought the same when the industrial revolution struck and looks like the humanity dealt with it more or less successfully. People get used to everything and I think robots and self-driving vehicles will be very challenging but we will find a way. And if not then it's gonna be the end of the world as we know it (Kurt Vonnegut's scenario from The Sirens of Titan seems true to life)
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The Jacquard loom effected a small segment of society and the related jobs.

I see automation as a widespread disruptive technology, potentially covering all aspects of manufacturing, farming, and all human endeavor.
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Farming? You studied the history of farming in the last 50 years. There has been a huge disruption in that, with the number of people required to work the land dropping 1-2 orders of magnitude.

It's funny but sci-fi writers have been talking about the increased leisure generation for decades now, but we seem to be working as hard or harder than ever before. The paradigm changes with each disruption.
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I wonder how close they are to making a driverless car which can read a handwritten warning or diversion sign, or react appropriately when someone at the side of the road waves furiously at it (perhaps to tell the absent driver of a hazard just around the next bend?).
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They can just about manage non-eventful motorway driving.
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We might worry, but that seems just a cultural abnormality, most chinese are robots already.
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billshurv, I understand the farming issues but see it continuing at an accelerated pace of automation.

Five years ago migrants used to move through this area in the late summer to pick tomatoes and peppers.

I've not seen them in numbers of the past in the last two years. Automated picking machines are displacing them.
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